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There are some Pagan sects that are not accepting of homosexuality. Asatru is a sect that I have learned more about over the past few years. Homosexuality is generally considered to be morally abhorrent in Asatru. Then again, followers of Asatru have a higher tendency than any other Pagan sect I know of to be white supremacists. So much like any other community, the Pagan community takes all types.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,I am not certain why my responses are getting cut off, but they are…. anyway…. You are comparing apples and oranges a bit here. Taking out the paradox of the religious researcher who according to your statement would have to be certain that God exists, let’s ask a Atheist physicist to admit that they can not say for certain that gravity exists. We assume it does because of the empirical evidence we have to back it, but then many religious people have personal empirical evidence that God has touched their lives.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,The original question that was posed was “Why do so many people reject science when it can be proven, simply on the basis of religion?” If no amount of experimentation can ever prove a scientific theory right, why do we bother experimenting at all? It would seem that the original question is based on the false pretext that we can prove science to be correct. That helps me support my answer to the original question even further. Thank you. Please pardon the sarcasm and any extreme position I may have incorrectly lumped Einstein. I forgot that he was a religious man, focused in part on epistemology and thus would always consider what we know to be relative (if you will pardon the pun) to our current point in time and our current point of view. In addition, I forgot that Einstein was si
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,The scientists I have talked to have never had any qualms telling me a theory was wrong when they believed it had absolutely no evidence to support it particularly if there was strong evidence backing another theory. There is no scientist I know of who will say “its likely that Creationism is not the right answer”, they will simply say its not true. There are plenty who will say without reservation that the Theory of Evolution is correct. Newton did not say it was likely that the Laws of Motion were true. Einstein did not say the Theory of Relativity was probable. They were absolute in their belief of these theories. If scientists were responsible for only observing/describing phenomena, then they would never develop theories. Theories are the logical assumptions scientists make base
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Not a single religious person I know (and I know quite a few from a broad spectrum of faiths) will assert that the chemical component of love does not exists. I am certain there are some out there, but I would gamble that there are as many of those believers as there are those who believe completely in science and dismiss the existence of the spiritual realm. I have met a few of those pure science believers. My point about spiritual love and science is that the theories of science do not acknowledge a spiritual realm. Scientific method insists that the spiritual realm can not be proven to exist by observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning, thus it must be assumed that it does not. Further, scientific method can pinpoint a chemical response
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,If I told you that the only connection you had to your loved ones was a chemical response, would you believe that there was nothing more to the love you feel for them? It is easy enough for science to prove that spiritual love does not exist. I am guessing, though, that you believe like most people that there is a deeper meaning to your relationships than just a chemical response even though you can not prove it exists. That is what it means to have faith: believing there is something more than science can prove. Besides, what science believes is true today will be disproved tomorrow. Einstein proved there were areas that Newton’s Laws failed. Today physicists are experimenting to prove what is true about the realms where Einstein’s theories fail. Just because it can be proven, does not
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,This site is not about religious truth. It is about certain Christian opinion (not all Christian’s opinions, mind you, just the intolerant ones). And we have people on here wondering why Christians are stereotyped as intolerant. This would be an example of who is out there representing the Christian faith loud and proud.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,The Christians who fit these negative stereotypes are the ones who get attention and thus become the stereotype representation. The same is true of my faith. Most people do not realize I am a Witch because I do not wear goth clothing or tons of pentacle clad jewelry. I also do not light candles in my office or run around with a smudge stick purifying every place I have to work. That is how we are often portrayed, though. In my opinion, that is part of why I love this site: these stereotype can be dispelled.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,It took Pagans over a decade to get permission to mark the grave of their fallen veterans with a symbol of their faith while smaller sects of Christianity have gotten their specific symbols approved in less than a year. Our current President has even been quoted that he does not believe our faith is a real religion. With leadership like that, how discriminatory do you think the people they serve might be?
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,At my workplace, in addition to recognizing most Federal Holidays (albeit many are Christian, see below for the practicality of this), we are given two (2) personal holidays that we can take at anytime like vacation. This allows people who really want to take Veteran’s Day off (one of the Federal Holidays we don’t observe) they can. If an employee feels the need to take off Good Friday or Ash Wednesday (or both), they can. In my case I can use them to attend Sabbat rituals that might have been difficult to attend otherwise (mind you there are eight Sabbats and only two personal holidays, but it is something). Marshall University in Huntington, WV has actually instituted a policy of allowing students of Pagan faiths to take days off for religious purposes. This is in addition to the many
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,I do not think the question was one of a misalignment to current “correct-think”, as you put it. I think the question was one of misalignment to the compassion taught by Jesus Christ and what most people of the Christian faith hold as the highest of Christian ideals. Having being a former Christian and married currently to a Christian, we often wonder the same thing.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,If you think they are cold when you tell them you don’t want to discuss your religion or you don’t want to attend church with them, try discussing your religion if you are Wiccan. Mind you, not everyone in the South is so bigoted, but it is amazing to me how many assume you are too until they find out otherwise. This has been my experience in Mississippi, Texas, Virginia, North Carolina, and West Virginia. (I’ve moved a lot in my past.)
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,While I am not an expert on all Pagan sects (there are as many if not more Pagan sects than there are Christian sects), Wicca and all of the other Pagan sects that I know of are completely accepting of homosexuals.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Another discussion point that no one has seemed to address is the societal ‘seat of beauty,’ which in the United States currently still resides in women. It is seen as understandable why any person would be attracted to a woman, because they are perceived to be where beauty lies. On the flip side, men are perceived as the seat of power. This is why many find it completely acceptable for women to dress like men. This is seen as an attempt to gain more power. Men who dress like women are often perceived as lowering themselves. For background reading about this, I recommend Androgyny: The Opposites Within by June Singer.
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Name : ChrisD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Atheist, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Production Manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,
