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  • in reply to: Reply To: Blacks blaming whites #39285

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    I didn't say that "blacks blame racism on people over 40.". I was implying that, in my opinion, 40 years isn't enough time to change a way of life that has been entrenched for more than 200 years. Racism begins at home! Next, the Affirmative Action thing: Affirmative Action wouldn't be necessary if there weren't discrimination in the first place. If minority contractors were able to get jobs based on their bids and merits, then the government wouldn't have to impose AA programs. So are you saying there is no such thing as discrimination? And I don't know what planet you live on, but black women do not earn more than white women. Listen man, no one is saying that you have to personally carry any guilt or responsibility for the way things are. However, it would be beneficial to all Americans if we agreed that there is a problem. Otherwise, how will the problem ever get resolved? Regarding education: Where do you get these statistics? Black schools receive more money than white schools? First, there shouldn't be black schools or white schools. Second, please tell me the source of your information; I'm very interested in knowing what organization is providing such absurd data. Finally, your comments about learning being genetic reveal your true feelings. It seems to me that you aren't interested in discussing issues ... are you?

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    Name : Tony, City : San Francisco, State : CA Country : United States, 
    in reply to: Why do white people do such nasty things? #32912

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    this isn't a message to be posted on the forum, I would like to get in contact with Nelson to dicuss the political situation in Caracas. Is it possible for you to let him know this form me and to send him my email address. Thanks, tonyway@yahoo.com

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    Name : Tony, City : San Francisco, State : CA Country : United States, 
    in reply to: Why forget the past? #25922

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    What does 600,000 dead white people have to do with this debate? What about the hundreds of thousands of black people who died on the way here in slave ships? What about the hundreds of thousands of black people whose free labor helped this country to become the economic power it is today? Do you think this country would have developed economically as quickly as it did without slavery and the slaughter of millions of Native Americans?

    People who died in World War II and the Japanese citizens who were interned were paid reparations. Taxpayers' dollars are spent every day in places like Isreal, Egypt, Columbia and Kosovo, and I don't read or hear many complaints about that, except from Jesse Helms, who, although it pains me to say this, I agree with regarding this issue.

    It's strange to me how easily people can be whipped into a frenzy when it comes to spending money on things like welfare and affirmative action and whipped into compliance regarding foreign aid to places previously unknown to them. All it takes is introducing the dividing factor of race.

    Reparations are a bad idea simply because most white people would be resentful. As far as who should pay, it should be the U.S. government, which sanctioned slavery for so many years. Had the U.S. government kept its promise to give the freed slaves their 40 acres and a mule, and had the slaves been able to live free of racism and discrimination, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in right now. Unfortunately, that will never happen because racism is too entrenched in the psyche of this country. Am I the only person on this site who has actually read the Federalist Papers? If anyone has any doubts about how and by whom this country was founded, I would recommend reading the document on which our beloved country was formed. And please don't bring up the Constitution if you can't discuss the difference between it and the Ariticles of Confederation. Before citing erroneous data, I suggest that people learn the truth. Don't get me wrong, there are many wonderful things about this country, and there are few places on earth where I would rather live. But come on, people, we have serious problems in this country; admit it.

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    Name : Tony, City : San Francisco, State : CA Country : United States, 
    in reply to: Blacks blaming whites #22832

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    People's financial status and/or 'lot in life' is a result of more than 'messing up in school' or making bad decisions. And unfortunately, in this country a person's race may play a larger role in this matter than it should In order to truly discuss anything, racism included, you must first agree with some basic truths or givens. For instance, it is a given that until the 1960s it was legal to discriminate against black people. It was also legal to provide black people with inferior educational facilities. Until the '70s it was legal to deny black people the right to live in certain neighborhoods, even if they could afford to live there.

    Now given those truths, let's try to determine why a disadavantaged black person living in 1999 would blame 'the white man' for his or her position. First, the first significant laws banning discrimination were passed less than 40 years ago. That is not a lot of time to change the minds of people who imposed and/or supported those discriminatory laws in the first place. Those people and their offspring may be in positions of power (police officers, hiring managers, politicians, whatever) and may still harbor racist views. Secondly, since so many blacks were denied access to quality education (we could debate whether most Americans truly receive a 'quality' education, but for the sake of argument let's say it means learning a profession or proving that you were able to complete four years of college), it is reasonable to conclude that they would not have a well-paying job. Nor would they necessarily place an emphasis on their children's education. In many instances, children of disadvantaged households have to work (legal or illegal work) in order to supplement their parent(s) income. Even today, blacks who have the same educational and professional qualification as whites are paid less for doing the same job. Can you explain this? I can: Racism still exists. It doesn't mean we should give up and hate one another because of it, but we should all at least have the courage to admit the truth.

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    Name : Tony, City : San Francisco, State : CA Country : United States, 
    in reply to: Reply To: Why forget the past? #31456

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    Your statement that it was ancestors of slaves who sold or captured slaves is incorrect. In the beginning of the slave trade people in west Africa lived near the coasts. It only took a few years before most of the people who once lived near the coast were either enslaved or had retreated inland. Once my ancestors had moved inland your ancestors followed. Although they were technologically inferior, the Africans fought the slave-traders. Faced with this resistance, the slave-traders enlisted the assistant of tribal chiefs and alike to assist them in raping the continent. It is not unlike what happens in this day and age when America places dictators (Manuel Noriega, Sadaam Hussein, Augusto Pinnochet, and the Shah of Iran) in positions of power in order to pillage countries of their natural resources. What I like most about this forum is the satisfaction I get from reading comments like yours. I am so very thankful that I am a freethinker, that I received a real education (rather than being educated to be a good citizen), and that I've traveled to Europe and South America and met people there who see the world as it really is.

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    in reply to: Rude behavior by black people #23723

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    How is it that you know the motivation of the person that is rude to you? Maybe that person is rude to everyone. It works both ways; if I am treated badly by a salesperson or someone treats me rudely, I do not automatically assume it's because I'm black or gay, or bald or attractive. My first inclination is to think "what's his/her problem?"

    Recently at a dinner party I took part in a conversation about young Latino, Filipino and African-American kids and how loud and obnoxious they are on the Metro (subway) and how loudly they play their music. I was in a room of professional adults who seemed absolutely powerless over these teenage kids. I told them that if I'm on the Metro and anyone, not just kids, is being rude, I ask them to be quiet or whatever. The non-whites in the discussion said they couldn't say anything to non-white kids because they were either afraid of the kids or afraid of being called racists. I think that's ridiculous.

    I also think these kids know that people believe the media's portrayal of them, and they are taking advantage of it. The moral of this story is, don't let the color of a kid (or anyone else) prevent you from speaking up if you think you're being treated rudely.

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    in reply to: Gays and promiscuity #31009

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    I answered a similar question last year. I am a gay male and had many straight male friends in college and the Navy. It is my experience that men in general are more promiscuous than women, especially men in their late teens and early 20s. But as these men, both straight and gay, grow older and develop friendships and relationships (unfortunately marriage isn't an option for gay men) achieving that next orgasm isn't as important as it once was.

    If the government hadn't been so prude in the '80s and had alerted people to the horrors of AIDS, the disease wouldn't have spread throughout the country as it has. All of you straight men who read this posting who were in college or the military in the '80s, just think about the sexual life of that time. It wasn't a gay or straight thing, it was a youth and sexual freedom thing. Period.

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    in reply to: European customs/stereotypes #31759

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    Germans: Unfriendly and cold, workaholics, alcholics, well-organized, well-educated, not individualistic, excessive smokers

    Swiss: Punctual to a fault, superior work ethic, extreme parties, shy, open-minded, well-traveled, speak at least three languages, very emotional and demonstrative, sexual-free.

    British: Pale skin, excessive drinkers, lazy, bitter about the decline of the Empire, hate the French, polite (when not drunk), unemotional, sexual repressed

    Italians: Lazy, corrupt, sexaholics, extremely religious, not well-traveled

    French: Rude, arrogant, socialist, excessive wine and coffee drinkers and excessive smokers, romantic

    Dutch: Open-minded, well-educated, sexually liberated

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    Name : Tony, City : San Francisco, State : CA Country : United States, 
    in reply to: Reply To: Never again … and that means slavery, too #37895

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    Excuse me! Steven Spielberg produced a documentary this year that was about the Holocaust, and it was nominated for an Academy Award. Secondly, why is it that when anyone wants to accuse blacks of being anti-Semitic, they use fringe characters like Al Sharpton or the Nation of Islam? If you want to have a real debate about the issues, let's talk about how most people feel.

    In my opinion, most black people I know feel that lately the Holocaust has gotten a lot of attention; however, every black person I know realizes that Jewish people played a prominent role in the establishment of the NAACP as well as the civil rights movement. Both groups are minorities in this country, and both groups are hated by groups like the KKK and neo-Nazis. Isn't it more constructive to direct the anger you have for the idiot Al Sharptons of the world at our common foes?

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    in reply to: Those designing, hair-cutting gay men #43773

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    How many gay me do you know? I know or have known hundreds, and very few fit the stereotypes you mentioned.

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