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Oh yea…dont forget Dane, you ARE posting your comments on the Race thread…you keep saying race has nothing to do with your argument…but you are posting your questions under a thread focused on race so it’s not too farfetched to think race may have something to do with your comments. Just an observation.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Maybe it is not a “Black thing”…maybe it is a class thing. I grew up in a very nice upper middle class neighborhood that was mostly Black (surprise surprise) and I have never seen this happen.Just because it is a “Black neighborhood” doesn’t mean their behavoir is because they are Black. It could be that they are low-class and inconsiderate of others. Don’t contribute it to their “Blackness”. It just makes you look stupid.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,So they move..huh? You think it was that easy for former slaves who were considered property (so they could own no property), had no money, no way of making money (they were rarely hired for paying jobs)…to just pick up and move? Oh, boy…you do have a lot to learn. No, not all were scared, but most were.Trust me…very very very few slaves stayed on the plantation because they were so happy with their wonderful masters Dane….its a nice thought…just not accurate.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Promptness is not a qualification. You can be on time for a job…doesn’t mean you are qualified to do the job. You can be late every day…but still be the expert in your field and thoroughly qualified to do the job. Tardiness does not take away from your qualifications. Your qualifications, IMO, are based on your ABILITY to perform the job…not what time you get to it. Nice try though.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Please, Dane, show me where I said most people owned slaves? You asked me to tell you how slavery affects us today..I did. It just does not affect the descendents of slaves or slavemasters, but everyone. No many families did not have property or $$ to pass down…but my point is at least they were ALLOWED to do so! Even so, most families still had some kind of family house or a small parcel of land to pass down…or family china or SOME KIND of possession. To answer your question, probably the same reason poor white people in the trailer park buy expensive cars and complain about the trailer park…that is a CLASS thing Dane, not a racial one. Since I have never lived in a ghetto or trailer park…I dont believe I am qualified to answer your question. Slaves stayed with their “masters”
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,I know exactly what a “probationary period” is…and if many do not make it through that period, why do you assume it was because they were “underqualified”? I can be very qualified for a postion, but if I am frequently tardy, for example, I may not make it through the “probationary period.” The reasons these women do not “make it” may have NOTHING to do with their qualifications…If the company is in the business of hiring people they know cant do the job, the company is shitty to begin with and your uncle shouldnt want to work for such an employer anyway. Dane, almost ALL candidates of any company, if hired for the postion, usually are qualified…even AA ones. People just ASSUME, as you did, that the candidates hired through AA are underqualifed…that is VERY VERY rarely the case. Mos
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Slaves stayed with their “masters” after slavery partially because many of their “masters” were also their FATHERS. Many stayed because after slavery, there were not that many, esp. in south, that were happy slavery had ended. They would make it their business to constantly harass freed slaves that left the plantation and tried to start their own “homestead”. They would frequently burn down their houses, beat the men, rape the women, and so on. So it was MUCH safer to stay on the plantation…there they only had the overseer or master to worry about, not the hundreds of poor whites that resented the freedmen and would do them harm (and never be punished or prosecuted for it).Trust me, it was NOT because they ” didnt want to try to learn something new”. There are published slave journals on
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Slaves stayed with their “masters” after slavery partially because many of their “masters” were also their FATHERS. Many stayed because after slavery, there were not that many, esp. in south, that were happy slavery had ended. They would make it their business to constantly harass freed slaves that left the plantation and tried to start their own “homestead”. They would frequently burn down their houses, beat the men, rape the women, and so on. So it was MUCH safer to stay on the plantation…there they only had the overseer or master to worry about, not the hundreds of poor whites that resented the freedmen and would do them harm (and never be punished or prosecuted for it).Trust me, it was NOT because they ” didnt want to try to learn something new”. There are published slave journals on
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,**”My uncle, who is a white male, has been denied a job at a state department in Alabama because of affirmative action, not to be racist but unqualified black women are given the job to fill the “quota” of “minorites” and most of them do not even last through the probationary period.”** Those are YOUR words taken directly from your post…and YES, you very much say that it is b/c of AA, (meaning they were hired on the basis of race, gender, ect….). Notice you did not say, “unqualified people get hired” you specifically pointed out that they were both Black and women….if those characteristics had no bearing on your argument or point, you would not have gone through the trouble of pointing out their race or gender. I know exactly what a “probationary period” is…and if many do not
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Simple: Some people are stupid enough to believe that all people who have a certain skin color like the exact same things. Just plain old stupidity.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Honestly? It makes me want a beer and a sausage. 🙂
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,The biggest type of racism that I hear bout nowadays is racial steering in housing. There are so many accounts I have heard from Blacks that have been told by white realtors that there were no houses available in certain areas, only to find that some of their “future-homeowning” white associates looked at houses in the same area around the same time. Many Blacks, although they can well afford it and are professionals, are frequently “steered” toward certain neighborhoods and areas, usually those that do not have as large populations of professional, middle-class whites. White people in this country have no idea how prevalent this is, mostly because they are rarely affected by it, and just assume that there are no or little Black people in their neighborhoods because the Blacks simply cant
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Did it ever occur to you that the black woman may have been a better candidate? How do you know the black woman was “unqualified”? Did you or your uncle see her records? Probaby not, since if the company reveals a candidate’s records, they can be sued and will probaly lose a HUGE amount of credibility.That is illegal you know. Dont assume just b/c a black woman was chosen over your uncle it had to be a quota. Blacks ARE able to be better qualified than whites, ya know. If another white male had gotten the job, what would the excuse be then? You would probably assume he just was a better candidate, wouldnt you? So why do you not assume the same about the woman?? B/c she is Black? I think that shows your own prejudices moreso than your uncle being a “victim” of AA.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,No I honestly think middle eastern Americans are the “new Blacks”. In my area, there seems to be more Anti-muslim/middle eastern sentiment than Anti-gay. But that is just my area.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,
