So they move..huh? You think it was that easy for former slaves who were considered property (so they could own no property), had no money, no way of making money (they were rarely hired for paying jobs)...to just pick up and move? Oh, boy...you do have a lot to learn. No, not all were scared, but most were.Trust me...very very very few slaves stayed on the plantation because they were so happy with their wonderful masters Dane....its a nice thought...just not accurate.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Promptness is not a qualification. You can be on time for a job...doesn't mean you are qualified to do the job. You can be late every day...but still be the expert in your field and thoroughly qualified to do the job. Tardiness does not take away from your qualifications. Your qualifications, IMO, are based on your ABILITY to perform the job...not what time you get to it. Nice try though.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, One word to that response: AMEN!!
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, The answer to your other question is that most Blacks are unwilling to abandon the Black organizations/schools/clubs/pagents that served the Black community so well when Whites where not thinking about us. You DO realize that is why Black organizations/schools/ect started...don't you? Whites would not let us into their organizations and schools, so we started our own. Now that whites have wised up and agree to let Blacks in...we are suppossed to close down all of our orgs that helped us make it to where we are?? We are just suppossed to say, "We dont want you now..WHITE PEOPLE have let us in..whoopie!!" ? Please! If Whites had never discriminated, there probably would not be Black orgs...It is funny that it is a phenomenon whites started...and now they are whining about it! Haha
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, **"My uncle, who is a white male, has been denied a job at a state department in Alabama because of affirmative action, not to be racist but unqualified black women are given the job to fill the "quota" of "minorites" and most of them do not even last through the probationary period."** Those are YOUR words taken directly from your post...and YES, you very much say that it is b/c of AA, (meaning they were hired on the basis of race, gender, ect....). Notice you did not say, "unqualified people get hired" you specifically pointed out that they were both Black and women....if those characteristics had no bearing on your argument or point, you would not have gone through the trouble of pointing out their race or gender. I know exactly what a "probationary period" is...and if many do not
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Please, Dane, show me where I said most people owned slaves? You asked me to tell you how slavery affects us today..I did. It just does not affect the descendents of slaves or slavemasters, but everyone. No many families did not have property or $$ to pass down...but my point is at least they were ALLOWED to do so! Even so, most families still had some kind of family house or a small parcel of land to pass down...or family china or SOME KIND of possession. To answer your question, probably the same reason poor white people in the trailer park buy expensive cars and complain about the trailer park...that is a CLASS thing Dane, not a racial one. Since I have never lived in a ghetto or trailer park...I dont believe I am qualified to answer your question. Slaves stayed with their "masters"
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Slaves stayed with their "masters" after slavery partially because many of their "masters" were also their FATHERS. Many stayed because after slavery, there were not that many, esp. in south, that were happy slavery had ended. They would make it their business to constantly harass freed slaves that left the plantation and tried to start their own "homestead". They would frequently burn down their houses, beat the men, rape the women, and so on. So it was MUCH safer to stay on the plantation...there they only had the overseer or master to worry about, not the hundreds of poor whites that resented the freedmen and would do them harm (and never be punished or prosecuted for it).Trust me, it was NOT because they " didnt want to try to learn something new". There are published slave journals on
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Slaves stayed with their "masters" after slavery partially because many of their "masters" were also their FATHERS. Many stayed because after slavery, there were not that many, esp. in south, that were happy slavery had ended. They would make it their business to constantly harass freed slaves that left the plantation and tried to start their own "homestead". They would frequently burn down their houses, beat the men, rape the women, and so on. So it was MUCH safer to stay on the plantation...there they only had the overseer or master to worry about, not the hundreds of poor whites that resented the freedmen and would do them harm (and never be punished or prosecuted for it).Trust me, it was NOT because they " didnt want to try to learn something new". There are published slave journals on
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, I know exactly what a "probationary period" is...and if many do not make it through that period, why do you assume it was because they were "underqualified"? I can be very qualified for a postion, but if I am frequently tardy, for example, I may not make it through the "probationary period." The reasons these women do not "make it" may have NOTHING to do with their qualifications...If the company is in the business of hiring people they know cant do the job, the company is shitty to begin with and your uncle shouldnt want to work for such an employer anyway. Dane, almost ALL candidates of any company, if hired for the postion, usually are qualified...even AA ones. People just ASSUME, as you did, that the candidates hired through AA are underqualifed...that is VERY VERY rarely the case. Mos
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Simple: Some people are stupid enough to believe that all people who have a certain skin color like the exact same things. Just plain old stupidity.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Well Dane, one of the biggest effects that come to mind is the distribution of wealth in this country. You see, for more than 200 years slaves (ie. Blacks) were not allowed to own anything...indeed they were considered "property" themselves. While white families were able to pass down their aquired wealth,land,educational opportunities, etc to their future generations, ex-slaves were not allowed to start acquiring wealth until well into the 20th century! Surely you can recognize the effects of poverty in this country...why the heck do you think Blacks make up such an unproportional percentage of the poverty stricken?? Many young people only think of slavery as servitude...it was much more than that hun. It included sociatal DENIAL of rights taken for granted my those who were not slaves. M
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, A NAAWP to help "overcome" Affirmative action?? You are not serious, are you? You DO realize that the biggest group that is federally listed as a "minority" that has recieved the most benefits from AA is, drumroll please, WHITE women. Look it up buddy. Companies are required to have a certain % of MINORITIES...not necessary ethnic ones. So many will hire a butload of white woman and will have satisfied their AA obligations without having to hire as many ethnic minorities. That is why it is hilarious to me when I see white woman lobbying against AA...they are the main ones that have benefitted!! But many do not realize this, and somehow think that the recent surge in women in education and business came from nowhere....or that the top white-good-ole-boy network had a miraculous change of he
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Honestly? It makes me want a beer and a sausage. :)
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, Did it ever occur to you that the black woman may have been a better candidate? How do you know the black woman was "unqualified"? Did you or your uncle see her records? Probaby not, since if the company reveals a candidate's records, they can be sued and will probaly lose a HUGE amount of credibility.That is illegal you know. Dont assume just b/c a black woman was chosen over your uncle it had to be a quota. Blacks ARE able to be better qualified than whites, ya know. If another white male had gotten the job, what would the excuse be then? You would probably assume he just was a better candidate, wouldnt you? So why do you not assume the same about the woman?? B/c she is Black? I think that shows your own prejudices moreso than your uncle being a "victim" of AA.
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Name : AmberW, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, The biggest type of racism that I hear bout nowadays is racial steering in housing. There are so many accounts I have heard from Blacks that have been told by white realtors that there were no houses available in certain areas, only to find that some of their "future-homeowning" white associates looked at houses in the same area around the same time. Many Blacks, although they can well afford it and are professionals, are frequently "steered" toward certain neighborhoods and areas, usually those that do not have as large populations of professional, middle-class whites. White people in this country have no idea how prevalent this is, mostly because they are rarely affected by it, and just assume that there are no or little Black people in their neighborhoods because the Blacks simply cant
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