Talking to the hand

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    Lauren
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    I wouldn’t say your friend has the right to be completely rude to people, but then again you have to consider (and perhaps experience it) to understand fully how ridiculous guys can be toward women when hitting on them, especially if it happens often and you aren’t even up for it to begin with. Guys generally go hunting for females if they are single (or not) when they are out almost non-stop, and when you’ve had your fill you really don’t care to be nice about it. Even if she had been nice to him, he more than likely wouldn’t have taken a hint, which is probably exactly what she was trying to stop cold. I don’t know your friend, but unless she is an idiot, she probably knows well the difference between a guy who is attempting to hit on her and a guy who isn’t. It’s her choice how she deals with it either way, because she isn’t obligated to entertain others on any level if she doesn’t want to. So what if it’s cold sometimes? How cold is being viewed as if you were meat? As if you were obligated? How cold are men to women in the same game?

    Appealing to a woman’s character after you get turned down is perhaps the worst mistake made by men after getting rejected, because while some might feel bad for him, most don’t. They know the guy is only sore that his mojo got denied and he didn’t get what he wants. Such is the game, and the game is never fair. I recommend, however, that she employ another tactic besides ‘talking to the hand.’ That’s just freakin’ cheesy.

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    Annie
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    Some people are insensitive and others are just plain mean, but for the most part people know it’s not OK to treat others so badly; your comment conveys that you think only women treat men rudely. I think your friend’s problem is that she thinks every man who is polite to her is hitting on her. She must think she’s very special. Maybe you could try explaining to her that every man does not want her and that they are just being nice.

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    Anna23817
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    While I don’t excuse your friend’s rudeness, there are certainly good reasons behind her firm response at the club. Too often, when a woman makes basic, polite conversation with a man who’s sexually interested in her, she’s accused of ‘leading him on’ or being a ‘tease.’ Some men seem to view conversation or a drink as entitling them to something. Also, men seem to view basic conversation as an entree to start pressuring the woman to date or do him, and no one wants to fend off unwanted advances. Also, if she is there to hook up, she doesn’t want to spend her time chatting with someone she’s not interested in – who does? If women are sometimes rude, it’s because we’re put (often unwillingly) into awkward situations by men – not all of us handle it as gracefully as we’d like, but who says we have to let some guy we don’t know down easy?

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    #20073

    Nicole20032
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    No, it’s not OK. Sorry to say, but your friend has a real chip on her shoulder. She seems to take anything a man says as a come-on, which isn’t always true. Asking, ‘Excuse me, do you have the time?’ may just be a time question and not a, ‘Hey, let’s go back to my place.’

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    John
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    Women, in general, have much more class than what was demonstrated by your friend. The girls I’ve known show much more courtesy and politeness. I think your buddy has a big case of narcissism and really needs to calm down.

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    Amanda31482
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    Your friend was a very rude person who thinks extremely highly of herself – which isn’t a bad thing until it borders on narcissistic.

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    Shay S.
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    Some women deserve to be called b**ches, if that is what they are representing. She was probably one of those women with that ‘I don’t need a man’ mentality. All women don’t treat men like that. If a guy comes up to me and tries to talk, I will hold a conversation with him. If he tries to get closer, I just say I’m not interested in him that way.

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    Kelly26565
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    I’m not sure what made your friend respond like that, but I don’t think it’s okay to treat people that way. As a single woman, I am approached by men all the time in every situation. I can’t buy gas without being asked out. And it seems that the only reason this happens is that I’m nice. If I smile at the grocery clerk he thinks I want him. It has gotten kind of annoying and sometimes I just want to be left alone. Maybe your friend feels the same way. My problem is that it seems men just hit on all women they meet and pursue them until they get shot down, to improve their odds of getting laid. So maybe this lady is smart to shut him down before he really starts bugging her, if she knows she doesn’t want anything from him. But she could probably find a better way than the hand thing.

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    #16694

    Jay31325
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    I do not think it is OK for women to treat men like your friend did – especially the extremely rude ‘talk to the hand’ stuff. I don’t think anyone should treat anyone, male or female, with such disdain. I’ve had similar experiences, except that when I’ve turned a guy down politely, I’ve been verbally assaulted with a torrent of ‘bitch,’ ‘ho,’ ‘you think you’re all that,’ etc. It’s unfortunate that some people have no home training.

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    Veronica
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    Some women would be more rude than that. When it comes to guys, even in a club, the women are very rude to whoever they think is not their type. There are some women who are shy and not even open to men who try to say ‘Hi.’

    I believe it is not OK to treat a man like this, no matter how you see that person or how they may act when they come up to a woman. I feel that when a men comes up to a woman, the woman should act like an adult and not some kid who plays little games. She should just say, ‘I am here with my friends and not trying to get picked up right now,’ etc.

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    Sammi B.
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    I do not think it is nice or acceptable to treat people that way. Your friend was really rude. I always say treat people as you would want to be treated. Suppose the girl in the club got up enough nerve to say hi to someone she wanted to talk to, and he did the same to her? She would probably feel very bad. There are polite ways to let someone know you want to be left alone or are not interested. Most folks can tell, by your actions, whether you are a smart (polite and respectful) person or an ignorant (rude and disrespectful) person. First impressions are lasting ones.

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    A.J.B.
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    I think when men or women have been treated rudely or badly by the opposite sex, too many times they cease to see individuals and instead see only ‘all men’ or ‘all women’ and make snap judgments. In this case, the guy could have been an arsehole, in which case she’s saved herself some trouble. Then again, he couldv’e been this great guy that she’s just passed up. Plus, when people have this ‘must find a partner at all costs’ mentality, it kind of shows on their faces, and they then become even less attractive.

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    #16941

    Nathan20130
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    The way women treat men is simply inhuman. Have you ever spoken to a woman and weren’t even worthy of ‘the hand’? She just stares straight ahead as if you’re not even speaking. I’ve gotten it at least twice. Women think nothing of kicking a man in the teeth as if he doesn’t feel a thing, and then expect him to come back again and again. That’s why they can’t meet a ‘good’ or ‘nice’ man. Good men are tired of the game playing.

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    Marie
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    I agree with you, Craig. That is so rude. Say no thank you, but don’t be a bitch.

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    #29225

    Cassandra
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    I’m not the average female, obviously, but I am a lesbian and I get really sick of being approached by straight men. I usually try to get away without being rude, just by saying, ‘No, thankyou’ or whatever, but they won’t give up. They pursue you until you have to be rude or literally run away. For example, a man in a shop asked me, ‘Are you married?’, I said, ‘No’, ‘So, you’re single?’, ‘Yes’, ‘Are you looking for a boyfriend?’, ‘No’, ‘Well, I find you rather attractive. Would you like to go out with me?’, ‘No, thankyou.’ I ran away at that point, because I don’t think I should have to justify myself to straight men.

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