[Bill23225]

As a gay man, it seems to me that our society is obsessed with 'lesbianisnm' (just check out the "Girls Gone Wild" videos). So why is it so dangerous for two guys to do the same thing? What is it about two guys that you straight people find so offensive?

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[Danielle]

I think it is because most women are comfortable with the fact that they are at least curious about same-gender sex, while 'straight' men are extremely uncomfortable with expressing any curiosity at all. Men are supposed to be 'manly,' and there is something gentle about being with another man. They feel they would no longer be considered 'strong' or masculine because they would be assuming a woman's 'role'.

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[Sean H.]

Men are physically stronger than women, and are also genetically more violent. I guess a man might fear homosexual men because they fear the potential of homosexual rape. I have known many gay men, and most seemed very 'normal' people (apart from non-standard sexual orientation, of course!). There is probably the same incidence of 'bad apples' in the gay community as in the straight.

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[Taz27443]

Simple. Heterosexual guys like good-looking women. And the idea of two good-looking women is considered twice the fun by many guys. The idea that straight guys do not want to look at two guys 'getting it on,' so to speak, should not come as a surprise. It's simple human nature for straight people to enjoy looking at the opposite sex. The same way gay people claim it's human nature for them to look at the same sex. But getting more to the point, the fact is we live in a male-dominated society. And straight males are still considered to be the majority. Therefore the entertainment industry, and society in general, is going to be geared toward the majority. If we lived in a gay-dominated society, things would be very different. I'm sure we wouldn't be seeing as much of the 'Girls Gone Wild' videos you mentioned.

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[Kristina26243]

The obsession with 'lesbianism' has nothing to do with true acceptance of gay women. As a matter of fact, it shows the extreme sexism still in existence in our culture. Why? Because the whole fantasy going on in men's mind with it is basically that they think they, in all their masculinity or whatever, can get the woman to convert to them sexually. I think if a woman was gay for real, she would encounter prejudice similar to gay men (although maybe not as intense). I mean, look at all the controversey surrounding the 'Ellen' series, for example.

As far as gay men being discriminated against so much, I think it is because of fear, mainly from religion. Remember, America was founded as a so-called 'Christian' nation, and Christianity condemns homosexuality. In addition, gayness goes against what is the 'norm.' Often it's the mentality of many to be afraid of people or things they don't find familiar.

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[Anne]

My gay friends had a theory when I posed the question to them years ago: Heterosexual men can obsess with lesbians because of the fantasy to be with two women at the same time. They can visualize themselves in the bedroom with the two women. I guess the fact that true lesbians (as opposed to bisexual women) wouldn't welcome them escapes the majority of men. Also, a lot of so-called 'lesbian porn' is actually geared toward heterosexual men. It plays on the fantasies of such men. I feel that people should feel safe to do whatever comes natural to them. I believe that anyone who tries to hinder this should go live in some other non-democratic country.

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[Jessica]

Much of the porn industry is dominated by heterosexual men, many of whom fantasize about threesomes. Often, a heterosexual male's concept of a threesome equals two girls all over one guy. When these guys see two girls together, they mentally put themselves between the two girls. However, this is of course a very general statement (and for all you guys with this fantasy, I warn you that the girls are much more likely to be all over each other and leave you out). Another reason (again having to do with the dominating party of the porn industry) is that heterosexual men do not often fantasize about other men - they fantasize about women. Adding another woman to the visualization is just an added bonus.

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[Christina32060]

Actually, as far as women go, we're fine with gay guys kissing. If I see a gay couple at the grocery store, I think it's cute. Men, on the other hand, have the problem with you guys. It's probably because you represent what they're most afraid of being: gay.

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[James D.]

There are two main categories of people who object to homosexuality. The first is the moralists who believe that because of religion or nature or whatever, homosexuality is simply wrong. I doubt this first group would endorse homosexual women any more than homosexual men (at least not in public). The other category is those who regard the world as a playground for their own personal titillation. For a man in this category, the idea of two women together is attractive because it evokes a fantasy involving him (the truth, that they would be an unwelcome interloper, would be a real joy-killer). Of course, if these men don't find the lesbians attractive, their obsession evaporates quickly. The heterosexual women who accept lesbianism do so because it turns their man on, and that makes them happy. It has nothing to do with acceptance of lesbianism, and everything to do with satisfying - and keeping - their mate. Male homosexual sex doesn't do anything for heterosexual men, and heterosexual women are smart enough to know that they would be an unwelcome participant, so it has no benefits for either heterosexual gender, therefore it is still anathema. By the way, this whole issue p***es me off no end. But what can you do - times will change.

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[Barbara23471]

I don't really agree with you that being a lesbian is seen as OK. I agree that straight men like the idea of watching two women having sex, but they like the idea of the women performing for the entertainment of the man watching. Straight men don't understand if you say to them that having a man in the background would completely take away the meaning of the experience. So, the women who are considered OK, in this context, are bisexual women who are more straight than lesbian. Think of it this way: I know this is a very unlikely situation, but if two men had sex for the entertainment of a straight woman in the background, would they be gay? Would you want to be seen as the same as them? (As a matter of interest, I think lesbians and gay men should be allies.)

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[Tracy24862]

It is unfair and a bit bigoted to assume all of us are offended or uncomfortable with the idea of male/male relationships. I don't give it a thought one way or another. A person is very fortunate to develop a mutually loving relationship with another person, whether that person be of the same gender or of the other. I do know that there are some heterosexuals who are uncomfortable with same-sex relationships because of religious beliefs and social taboos, but lesbian relationships have been eroticized by straight men who love the idea of 'the more the merrier,' so to speak. Most women do not get turned on by two men together, so no eroticization of this takes place in mainstream culture.

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[Mike]

I once posed this question to a straight couple who are neighbors of mine. His reply regarding seeing two girls going at it was that he just finds it highly erotic and a major turn-on as a guy. Her reply regarding two girls was that she believes women reach a level of intimacy and respect when making love that men just can't (or don't seem to acheive). When I asked then what about two men, his reply was that he just saw 'no beauty' in the act - it's just raw sex and that the idea of male sex seems too gross to be a turn-on. Her reply was much the same: the times she has seen two men go at it, it appeared to be just brutal, raw sex with no intimacy or respect for the other person. And as a gay male, I'd have to agree. I have seen both, and between lesbians there just seems to be a higher sense of intimacy and gentleness. With men, it's rough, brutal, raw sex just for the sake of self-gratifaction. In very few instances have I witnessed (either in person or on video) a tender, caring, intimate sexual encounter between two men.

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[Stephen]

Str8 porn can tolerate two women, because str8 men like to envision multiple women, where they have the sole penis present. Also, I think that many str8 men use the woman/woman (I wouldn't call it 'lesbian') scenes to learn the techniques which they can use to improve their own techniques.

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[Chris]

i think it's because being gay threatens male masculinity and their societal role. gays go against the accepted heterosexual norm and straight men don't want to associate themselves with such actions through being male. hence some of the aggressiveness directed by straight men on gays. whereas when lesbians perform for a straight guy, they are objectified and are there for his sexual pleasure. so this is ok because they don't harm the male chauvinistic ego.

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[Tyler]

The most obvious issue to me in this whole debate is the fact that our culture is AFRAID OF THE DICK. Very simply, the penis represents power. It must not be shown. Straight porn and other erotic programming so de-emphasize the penis that it's hardly even visible, even when opposite sex couples are on screen. You hardly ever see the dick, and when you do it's either small or flacid or both. The exception to this rule would be European porn and fake genitals (big fat dildos are acceptable viewing material). Basically I think straight men are afraid of other men's penises because they present a challenge to them, to their power, and ultimately to their sexuality. It's not out of fear of male on male rape. It's a refusal to confront other men's power. And acknowledge it. And even to admit they might be turned on by it. Our culture is so inundated with images of naked women, including genitalia, that it's become passe. This is because our entire entertainment and advertising industries have approached sexuality from the (straight) male perspective - the 'male gaze'. And even while there have been adventures into male eroticism in popular culture in recent years, the dick is not featured. Those Calvin Klein ads might seem sexual, but the dick is so taped down it's unrecognizable...and made smaller, to soften the blow. So it comes down to this: we can handle images of nude or semi-nude men, and pretend they're erotic, but if you're gonna show dick it better be underplayed. THE BIGGER THE WORSE.

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