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    I remember being a kid in religious school, and having our teacher pose the question ‘If the US and Israel were at war, who would you support?’ It’s meant to be a head-scratcher; it’s not a question with a simple answer. I can say personally that part of the allegiance with Israel has to do with safety. Remember, the Holocaust happened less than 100 years ago, and the State of Israel was basically formed in the aftermath. What of the Jews who, in the 1930s, would have said they were ‘Germans’ or ‘Poles’ before calling themselves ‘Jews’? The State of Israel is a kind of insurance policy; During WWII, countries – including the US – turned away boatloads of Jewish refugees, esentially ensuring their deaths. If Hitler could happen in Germany, he could happen here as well. Even with a less sinister menace – say Bush and Congress decided to make Christianity the National Religion – the Jews always know that they will have a place where they can be free to be Jewish in Israel. And of course, Israel is the only country where Judaism is the national religion; If, for example, Catholicism were outlawed in Ireland, Irish Catholics would still have a choice of places to go to be Catholics. As to the second part of your question, about ‘Jewish’ as an ethnic identity, well, I agree in Judaism as a cultural identity. Judaism IS more than a religion; there is Jewish food, Jewish clothing, Jewish language (actually, three Jewish languages – Hebrew, Yiddish, and Ladino), there is a Jewish country … I would be hard pressed to identify a Lutheran food, or Presbyterian clothing. I do think Catholocism might also be considered a culture, as it does meet a lot of the same criteria.

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    Name : Hope, Gender : Female, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Religion : Jewish, Age : 38, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, 
    in reply to: Why are there bisexuals and homosexuals? #15883

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    It doesn’t matter if people are born gay or choose to be gay; it’s ok to be gay … or lesbian, or straight, or bisexual, or transgendered… etc., etc., etc. As for the gay vs. bi question… Many people belive that bisexuals are just gays who haven’t come to terms with their sexuality yet. In some ways, that is true – many gays do the ‘bi now, gay later’ plan (that is to say, spend a period of time being self-identified as ‘bi’ before becoming self-identified as ‘gay’ – use bisexuality as a transitional period), but it’s also true that there are plenty of people who are just plain bi. The Kinsey Scale rated sexuality from 0 to 6, with 0 being completely straight and 6 being completely gay, and what they found was that most people fell somewhere in between. Whether that means basically straight but had a lesbian fling in college, or basically gay but slept with a girl before they came out, in the end, it really just comes down to how you label yourself.

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    Name : Hope, Gender : Female, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Religion : Jewish, Age : 38, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, 
    in reply to: Jewish people and national loyalty #15440

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    I guess the similar question to ask you would be ‘What if the US were at war with Vatican City,’ rather than ‘What if the US were at war with Italy.’

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    Name : Hope, Gender : Female, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Religion : Jewish, Age : 38, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, 
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