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- January 14, 2001 at 12:00 am #7686
Thorsten RoggendorfParticipantMany people are convinced that we are kicking our civilization down the drain if we carry on like this (global warming, wars, population growth, destruction of soil, forests and fishing grounds and so on). If we think we are going to spoil it, why don’t we act and try and save the day? I don’t get it. Or is it that few people think like me? Thorsten
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Name : Thorsten Roggendorf, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 28, City : Bielefeld, State : NA, Country : Germany, Occupation : PhD student, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,January 25, 2001 at 12:00 am #16837
Priscilla30262ParticipantI can relate to the people who frustrate you with their apathy. Some people don’t want to face major issues like the environment because it’s easier to focus on the short-term, which really does present enough problems for some people. It’s like how some people don’t want to think too much about poverty in the Third World. If it’s an effort just to compete in the rat race, you don’t have the luxury of considering these issues at length, let alone doing something about it. Another aspect is that people do not believe they have the influence to make a real difference on these issues, because the decisions are made at much higher levels (i.e. top management of multinational companies and high levels of government). I can see these seem like weak excuses, but I think when these problems start to affect people’s lives more directly they will do something about it (and hopefully, it won’t be too late).
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Name : Priscilla30262, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 24, City : Sydney, State : NA, Country : Australia, Education level : 4 Years of College,January 26, 2001 at 12:00 am #43666
GregMemberThe first thing we need to ask ourselves is ‘Who are we?’ Many people want to bring about social change, but have many diverse ways of going about it. In the ’60s there was social change, but a more focused group brought it about. There is no one issue standing out in anyone’s mind. Drugs? Well, too many people do them to fight them. Poverty? We are involved in a post-consumerism horror state called noveltism. Nobody can spare too much to bring about change because most people are concerned about what they are going to buy next. In fact, that brings me to my point: Because of noveltism, the best thing we can do is educate people who will listen. Love people, not things. Use things, not people.
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Name : Greg, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 25, City : Cherry Hill, State : NJ, Country : United States, Occupation : Teacher, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,January 29, 2001 at 12:00 am #33545
E.E.ParticipantIf you look at all the things the human race is doing that are causing destruction in the world, you will find one common denominater: Money. Everybody knows this can’t go on forever, but as long as they keep making money it will never stop, because they are the ones with the power and they are the ones who make the “Big” decisions. I think believing that one day we can stop all of these things is keeping hope for change and future generations. Wars, for example, keep a lot of people rich; the same with mining and using all the earth’s resources. One last point: There IS enough food in the world for everyone. There is no reason that thousands of people die from starvation every day.
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Name : E.E., Gender : F, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States,January 29, 2001 at 12:00 am #28467
Nelson-A20160ParticipantFew people think like you. Your answer lies in your own description: you are upper class, which means you don’t have to worry about making ends meet. More than 80 percent of the world’s population can’t worry about saving whales (for example) because they have to worry about feeding their kids. Taking up environmental issues is typical of those who have time and money, like celebrities and upper-middle class college kids. As a teenager and during my college years, I was involved in plenty of ‘world-saving’ activities, because I had no kids to raise and my dad paid my way. As soon as I got married and had to make it on my own, things changed. If that’s me, then imagine the world’s underprivileged. Their opinion is ‘forget the ozone hole, I gotta worry about the hole in my stomach, and forget the seals, save us!’
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Name : Nelson-A20160, Gender : M, Age : 32, City : Caracas, State : NA, Country : Venezuela, Occupation : Lawyer/Business, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,January 29, 2001 at 12:00 am #17919
DerrickParticipantPerhaps there are less people considered about the environment than a person thinks. It is possible to sound exited about something yet relly not care. Some may also think that one person is not enough to make a difference. We can be like that. One person may not make that much difference. A group of many persons, however, can. We should all do the right thing and find Truth, even if others do not. If we all do that changes can and will be made.
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Name : Derrick, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 20, City : Accident, State : MD, Country : United States,June 29, 2001 at 12:00 am #18688
paulParticipantHi, I think about this a lot, read a great deal about it in various disciplines, so I have a question in return to you: If you could commit one act which would be over, say, 50% likely to create a peaceful, wealthy, free world, would you commit it? My working theory is that each human has about a dozen of these acts to commit every day. Our basic responsibility as human being is to choose the necessary and right course of action at every point. Scientifically, you might describe these as butterfly power or stochastic processes in information theory. But the theory is irrelevant; the action is everything. I also notice that if you commit these dozen acts, you get given more acts that create a peaceful wealthy free world to commit. If you stuff up on any of them, the noumber of acts decreases until you recognise your error. Here’s the clincher, though: if you consistently fail to recognise in yourself the right actions to do, you will eventually have only ONE ACT PER DAY which changes the world. And then, of course, you’ll have none. I think the concern with forces beyond your personal control such as the world’s environment is disempowering and frustrating, while paying attention to the dozen daily actions before you continually empowers you. This was my action for today!
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Name : paul, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Gay, Race : Celtic German, Religion : consciousness movement, Age : 27, City : Melbourne, State : DE, Country : Australia, Occupation : journalist, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Upper class,December 13, 2001 at 12:00 am #28466
JoeParticipantI understand your frustration. When you look at the ‘big picture’ it is easy to feel overwhelmed, discouraged and frustrated. Step back. Look at what ‘you’ are doing, as an individual, to save the planet. When you leave a public restroom and it is empty, do you turn the light off? Do you recycle? Is your home landscape environmentally-friendly? Etc. The only person we ultimately have control of is ourself. Do that, then move on to someone else who will listen and understand. I know of lots of environmental organizations that talk a lot about problems but DO very little about them. They are too busy blaming everyone else and not taking responsibility for themselves. Zero-in on what is manageable for you and be an example to others. If we all do this, it will add up in a hurry.
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Name : Joe, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Unity School of Christianity, Age : 46, City : St. Augustine, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : Horticulturist, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,February 10, 2003 at 12:00 am #35407
JeParticipantIn my own view, I think that the reason that we don’t act is that the problem is just too big and it can just be so frustrating and exhausting to keep on trying and in the end all the effort is just wasted. Another reason is that each one of us are individuals and we see things differently that we have our own concerns and some things are not just as important to some people.
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Name : Je, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Asian, Age : 27, City : Makati, State : NA, Country : Philippines, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, - AuthorPosts
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