Homosexuality: nature or nurture?

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    Keith A.
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    I think there’s a definition that’s being left out here, because people are assuming that everyone is working off the same definition of ‘being gay’. It seems to me that some people consider ‘being gay’ to mean having sexual feelings with regard to the same sex, and that others consider ‘being gay’ to involve acting on those feelings. If people could indicate what they mean when they say being gay, I think more meaningful discussion could take place. As for my opinion, I believe sexual preference can alter through one’s life, but I’m not sure how this happens or whether it can be affected or modulated by conscious choice. I don’t think it’s a terribly common thing for gender preference to switch, but if other facets of sexuality change, such as age preference and personality preference of partner, I don’t consider it unreasonable for gender preference to change.

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    #23281

    Georgia
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    Let me put it to you like this:Imagine the rest of the world is gay and 10% of the population is straight. Okay, now you have to hide who you are and who you love, because you may get beaten up or killed. You may get thrown out of your school, called names, have your house burned, have the holier-than-thous threaten you. You have to try to conform to the way society thinks you should dress, act, walk, and talk. When everyone around you is talking about their new love or partner, you can’t talk about yours, because it’s not acceptable, and some ppl think it’s evil or sinful. You have to refer to your live in love as your roommate, you can’t visit her/his family because s/he’s not out. Your family disowns you, and tells you you’re no longer their son/daughter. You can’t get married because society and the American president says you can’t. Now, tell me would you choose this life?

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    Name : Georgia, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Lesbian, Race : Human, Religion : Pagan, Age : 50, City : Springtown, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : nurse, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Lower middle class, 
    #27659

    Eric25204
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    We can actually determine how the human brain works. The human brain is probably the most complex mystery in the universe, and human sexuality is controlled by the human brain. So many people have different likes, dislikes, and fetishes, can any of those be nature, I wonder? Think about someone who has a foot fetish, was it taught or is it nature? A straight guy who likes to wear woman’s clothing, that could be taught or is it nature? Or canibalism? Until the mystery of the human brain is uncovered there will be no answer to it. So if you are gay, fine, so be it, don’t bother me none ’cause I got my woman with me. You get yours, I’ll get mine. Peace.

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    Name : Eric25204, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 27, City : Heidelberg, State : NA, Country : Germany, Occupation : Military, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class, 
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    Brittany
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    If I offend you in anyway I apologize but I’m none to speak my mind and most people that know me know that I don’t hold my tongue for anyone so if your feelings are hurt I’m sorry but here it comes. I don’t know if you have noticed but the people that are saying that homosexuality is genetic are homosexals. But please educate me, let me know how is a sexual orientation by genetics. And I wanna know what can you get from the same sex? Why would you want to engage in sex with someone that has the same sex organs as you? Come on now, is it really pleasure? Cuz if so you’re better off masturbating. And again I may sound harsh but im juss so curious

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    Diane M.
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    Let me start by saying, I’m not gay so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I have many very close friends who are. I have quizzed them endlessly and watched some very informative programs to try and come to terms with this issue. One argument that I have heard is that if you accept homosexuality as nature, then God made them that way, and God wouldn’t do that. Then please explain to me about hermaphrodites? They are God’s creatures and, in most cases I have read or heard about, at some point someone else has made a gender decision for them. And in most cases, when they grow up, they don’t understand why they don’t feel like they are quite right. Hmmmm, somebody else made a gender decision for them that was wrong? Somehow I feel this all ties in together. I don’t love my gay friends in spite of them ‘being gay’, I love them for the people they are, on a personal level, for all the things about them that make them special to me. I guess I’m on the side of nature.

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    Name : Diane M., Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, City : Tahlequah, State : OK, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, 
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    brianna23060
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    being gay is not somehting that u are born wit. it is a nasty lifestyle dat people choose.it is very sinfull and will be sent ot hell

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    #18592

    Tom24124
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    The vast majority of gay people don’t ‘choose’ it. That’s nonsense; one can’t force oneself to like or dislike something. However, that does not mean it’s necessarily entirely biological either. Very few of our mental qualities are entirely biological. Usually it is a combination of biological and environmental influences, and I suspect it is the same with our sexual desires.

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    #29513

    nbs
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    Then how do you explain the ancient Spartans and how they were all gay paedophiles who enjoyed anal sex with male apprentice minors?

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    Name : nbs, Gender : F, Age : 30, City : New York, State : OK, Country : United States, 
    #47408

    Rick29914
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    Did you ‘choose’ to be straight?

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    Name : Rick29914, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Gay, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 44, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : writer, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
    #16981

    Covergirl
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    Of course nothing should outweight love. Just because you were taught to read and believe in a book that teaches only one wy of thinking doesn’t make it the correct way. That same book teaches ones to have several wives and that the man is in charge as a woman I think that is a sin. Just as one likes vanilla icecream one knows if they like a man or a woman. From day one. And you could never get me to like chocalate. People should take books for what they are man written with flaws and you should have an open mind believe in everything 99.9 percent and you would understand a little more.

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    #16396

    Champ19166
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    Well this gay person is telling you that it is NOT a choice – it’s just the way you are. I remember having a coversation with my father shortly after I came out to my family. He said he wasn’t pleased with my ‘decision’ to be gay. I asked him to tell me about his thought process when he decided to be straight. Was it just to have children or did he want to better fit into society? He was stunned and indignent. He said he never even considered anything other than the way he was born. I then asked him why he thought things were any different for me as I didn’t make any ‘decision’ either – it’s just the way I am. I could almost see the lightbulb turning on above his head. That was many years ago and he now loves my partner of 7 years and makes sure he is included in all family events. Even in small town Iowa.

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    #34659

    Jim
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    If being gay is a matter of choice, please tell us how old you were when you decided whether to be gay or straight. If you never made that choice, why would you think anyone else has? I never did. Neither has anyone else. Ever.

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    Ember25353
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    You THINK gay people would agree? How presumpuous! Have you ever actually asked any? I have talked to many, and I they have all said the same – the feelings are inescapable, the only choose is whether to take the risk and act on them or remain socially acceptable and incomplete.

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    #27054

    Ben S.
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    My absolute position is that it’s all nature. Someone is born a homosexual with homosexual feelings. The feelings show up early for some and later for some but they were always a hint. A good analogy would be that many kids could identify as a Democrat because they like the ideals of the Democratic Party. Then, later in life they start thinking ‘Who is going to pay for all of this?’ and their ideals slowly drift to the Replican side of things. Your entire identity can change over time without you ever helping it or realizing it. Being gay is like that. Nature had it there from the beginning and one day you are suddenly aware of it. From that point you can’t stop your awareness of it or forget it. Here’s your choice: Do you act on the feelings or not? Remember that they won’t go away, you’ll still want it but you just won’t let yourself have it. It’s like telling yourself that from puberty onward you will never eat pizza even though it looks and smells really good. I can tell you that the average person couldn’t do it. Neither can the average homosexual. Most people cave to the feelings eventually. As for church teaching these things, it think it’s a numbers game. Make the really big rules really easy to follow. 1) Accept God as your Saviour. There’s no real test for that. It’s supposed to be personal and different for everyone so as long as you tell us you’ve accepted God, we’ll take it as proof. 2) Don’t be gay. Not a problem for at least 90% of the people out there. As for the other 10 or so percent, we’ll use them as an example of true sin and evil. It’s much more believable when you can see it in person.

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    #38103

    Phruce T
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    I admire you for getting to a place where real live people can share with you. I don’t think you know any out gay people or you wouldn’t make the comments you did. I’ve been out for 30 years and I’ve only heard closeted or just emerging gays claim that it’s a choice. I know I did not make a choice; this is who I am. With more experience you might learn not to base your knowledge on one high school class. This is a great start.

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