Ebonics 101

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    J-V-B
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    I would like to know why some people think Ebonics should be taught in our schools. Do they think corporate America will use or accept this at some point? And do they feel it is OK for our young not to learn proper English?
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    Name : J-V-B, City : Jacksonville, State : FL, Country : United States, 
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    The issue of Ebonics is dicey and complex. First, very few people advocate ebonics be “taught,” any more than they intend bilingual education to teach Hispanic/Latino students to speak Spanish. Rather, the intent is to make use of the language assets a student might already possess as a bridge to success in other academic areas, including the acquisition of standard English language skills. There is considerable debate, however, about the status of Ebonics as a “language.” However, in my view there is nothing wrong in teaching children who say “dese” and “dey” or use Ebonics-based grammar structures that these forms of speech are acceptable expressions of their cultural identity and are rooted in the black experience in America. Teachers who learn and acknowledge these assets are more likely to “connect” with these students and succeed in transferring standard English language skills, as opposed to a teacher who derides their speech as an indication of either their profound ignorance, stupidity or both.

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    Name : Lawrence M., Gender : M, Race : Black/African American, Age : 35, City : Patchogue, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : Consultant, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    Betsy-L23223
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    I am a girl scout leader and here is what I have found with my girls, ranging in age from 6 to 13: The children in our society are interested in the cultures of others and the languages of others. By using Ebonomics, I have been able to share with them some of the diversity of the US and given them a window to others. this is how I feel it should be handled. I also feel there should be some sort of imput from the United Nations or Foreign Service board as to other cultures. we live in a town of about 3,000 people. What are the chances that my girls will have an opportunity to meet someone from another culture in farmland America?

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    Name : Betsy-L23223, City : Danville, State : PA, Country : United States, 
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    Alex
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    Like many you have bought the media soundbites about ebonics. Think about it: don’t some black kids already speak this language called ‘ebonics?’ So why would they have to be taught it? What ‘ebonics’ really was, was an attempt by teachers to get text books that have ‘ebonic’ terms in them so the kids could learn proper english. Simple as that, nothing more.

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    Name : Alex, City : Los Angeles, State : CA, Country : United States, 
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    Sarah
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    As for ebonics being taught in schools, I don’t think that would ever happen. But as for ebonics being seen as another American dialect, I think that would be an important step forward. I personally am fascinated by black dialect, by the slang and the way this whole new language evolved. There is such a great divide between black and white culture, it’s no surprise that a whole new language would have sprung forth. Also, who really speaks proper English? Americans sure don’t, only British people do. I’m sure our ‘hick’ American accents and slang sound very offensive to the British, but that doesn’t mean we speak a worthless and improper language. Ebonics is varied and interesting, the dialect in Los Angeles is very different from the slang used in Florida or New York. I’d personally like to new of a source to read up on it more.

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    Name : Sarah, Gender : F, Age : 22, City : Tampa, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : Artist, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, 
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    Carlton-B
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    The whole ebonics thing was blown entirely out of proportion by people who mistakenly thought that it was about teaching bad english. Actually, it was supposed to be a method of teaching standard English to kids who already have highly developed language skills. However, these kids speak a variant of English so far from standard English that it might as well be a foreign language. Instead of approaching it like it’s bad English that needs to be corrected, we need to treat the student like we would teach a French student whose French happens to be very good but doesn’t know much English. You don’t ask them to forget their natural language; you just teach English to them like they never heard it before.

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    Name : Carlton-B, City : Atlanta, State : GA, Country : United States, 
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    Beth
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    My friend and I are sitting here reading your response and we have this to say. We don’t care if teachers connect with their students. The kids in schools today are going to be the ones who are your doctors and lawyers when you are old and crusty and you are going to hate when they say ‘How yous doing today. We’s going to do some tests. It’s gravy.’ The level of education in schools today is poor enough without having to worry about whether these students are learning basic grammer or ebonics. When a person opens their mouth and starts to speak, that’s their neighbors’ first opportunity to get an impression of who they are. Ebonics spouting out are only going to put you into a downward spiral.

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    Name : Beth, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 34, City : Jacksonville, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : Freelance writer, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    ANON23669
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    EXCUSE ME, BUT EBONICS IS NOT A LANGUAGE IN THE SAME WAY THAT ARABIC AND/OR FRENCH MIGHT BE. YOU APPEAR TO BE JUST ANOTHER DEFENDER OF THOSE WHO REFUSE TO LEARN STANDARD ENGLISH AND THEN, YELL ‘RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’ WHEN ILLITERATE GRADUATES OPENLY DEMAND A JOB BASED ON RACE ALONE…. IN FACT, YOU SOUND LIKE A BLACK RACIST WHO WANTS SITUATIONS BOTH WAYS: ILLITIERATE BLACKS WHO CAN’T SPEAK STANDARD ENGLISH HAVE BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IF THEY ARE NOT HIRED…. BUT…. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SPEAK SO-CALLED EBONICS…..!

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    Name : ANON23669, City : ANON, State : NA, Country : United States, 
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    Khadijah
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    See this is why no race like white people. And I am so tired of biting my tounge. White people feel as though whatever your way of life style is the way to live. If a person is not talking acting dancing dresing, looking like a white person than its worng. let me ask you a question why the hell yall always trying to tan if your sooo proud of your so called race? Why every time yall white woman talk yall sound like yall are too happy to be sad. Why do white woman think they are a gift to evry man in this world when our really kryptonite (KOBE BRYANT LEARN FROM WHITE HOEZ) STOP LETTING THESE CRACKERS ASK ABOUT OUR RACE, WHEN DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOUR NOT CONCERNED YOUR JUST TRYING TO BE (DISRESPECTFUL) YALL CRACKERS WORRY ABOUT EVERYBODYS ELSES RACE BUT YOUR OWN? WHY YOU ALWAYS EATING YOUR KIDS, AND MOLESTING YOUR DAUGHTERS? IGNORANT HUN?

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    Name : Khadijah, City : Philadelphia, State : PA, Country : United States, 
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