Bush for president?

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    Hazellboo21439
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    During election time, why did a lot of poor, trailer park-living white Americans have Bush/Cheney signs in their lots? Did they think Bush would really do them good economically?

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    Name : Hazellboo21439, Race : Black/African American, Age : 20, City : Jacksonville, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : Customer Relations, 
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    LUN-NAS
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    BUSH ISNT GONNA DO ANYTHING BUT TRY TO BENIFIT HIS RED NECK ASS FAMILY.IT WAS ALL A SCAM ANYWAY AND EVERYONE IN FLA KNOW IT GORE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN AND NOW USA IS SHOT TO HELL FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL SOMEONE ACTUALLY SHOOTS WITHOUT MISSING.[WHATEVER COMES FIRST ]

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    Name : LUN-NAS, City : JACKSONVILLE, State : FL, Country : United States, 
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    PappaJerry
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    Poeple don’t automatically vote for candidates for purely economic motives. Poeple select candidates for other reasons, including social policy, abortion, gun control and a host of others. In my part of the country, ‘trailer park-living white Americans’ break down into two categories: retirees and what we lovingly refer to as ‘trailer trash’. The latter group has a markedly higher incidence of racial bigotry than any other group I can think of. And in my part of the country, Republicans are perceived to be generally opposed to ‘black’ interests. This could well explain why ‘trailer park-living white Americans’ voted Republican.

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    Name : PappaJerry, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 66, City : Tampa, State : FL, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    BJ
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    I am not here to put anyone down, but, ‘I feel you’! It is my opinion that white people where taught, back during the Civil Rights Movement, that the Republican Part is for the good of the White Americans. Republicans are supposed to be ‘Good Christian White Folks’. It was the Republicans against De-segregation. It was the republicans on the opposite side of Dr. King with the dogs, night sticks, and waterhoses. What they don’t realize is that the republicans could care less about the poor. That includes poor everybody. White people will sacrifice a few of their own to help the wealthy majority.

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    Name : BJ, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 24, City : Houston, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Mining/Energy, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    Mark Buchanan
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    I hope not, because if they are not ready to join the military, the credits are going to roll. I think it was a racial thing.

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    Name : Mark Buchanan, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Baptist, Age : 36, City : Cali, State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : Government, Education level : Technical School, 
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    Priscilla30277
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    It shouldn’t take an Australian to explain the “Reagan Democrat” phenomenon: these were poor people who would have traditionally supported the Democrats, but voted for Reagan because of his social conservatism, which appealed to them, ‘family values,’ etc. Those people probably supported Bush for the same reason.

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    Name : Priscilla30277, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 24, City : Sydney, State : NA, Country : Australia, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    Jack21196
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    I can’t answer for those in the trailer park because I don’t live there. I would imagine these people answer the bell every morning on the job. If you work for a living and have any moral fiber how could you ever vote for a democrat? What can a democrat offer you? More taxes, more government, more wasteful spending programs, gun control. What of that would appeal to a working class white?

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    Name : Jack21196, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Baptist, Age : 56, City : Suwanee, State : GA, Country : United States, Occupation : Professional, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class, 
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    Gret
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    From talking to people in tis particular socio-economic group (including family members), they were extremely distrustful of Gore, seeing him as a liar and worse, a city slicker. Perhaps, too, on some level they found his intellect threatening as well as his positions on gun control, abortion and race relations. Nothing is more frightening to lower-class residents of rural communities than a ‘liberal’ who wants to change the status quo. I can’t see where any real consideration to the issues was given, only the expectation that a ‘good ‘ol boy’ like Bush would somehow restore ‘morality’ to the White House and again subsidize rural interests and expand the military…a return to the Reagan/Bush years and the rural folks’ ultra-conservative (and hypocritical) comfort zone. In effect, all’s right with the world as long I can still tote a shotgun and the president reminds me of my cousin. Believe it or not, getting to the point where you actually own your own trailer is living high on the hog for some people…and once they have that little bit, that’s their world and they don’t know/don’t care what happens beyond the next county. .

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    Name : Gret, Race : White/Caucasian, City : San Diego, State : CA, Country : United States, 
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    James20883
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    If they are in the conditions you describe, then I would guess that they were supporting Bush with the fond hope that things would be better for them. It seems rather apparent that if they are there, then the Clinton/Gore economic boom must have passed them by, and they were not ready to invest another four years in those policies. The boom economy did not do much for many African Americans, either, but the Gore political signs were abundant in those neighborhoods.

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    Name : James20883, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Baptist, City : Burton, State : OH, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    Beth
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    Perhaps they have high standards and don’t think that anyone — including the president of the United States — should be above the law.

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    Name : Beth, Gender : F, Age : 45, City : Wamego, State : KS, Country : United States, 
    #46160

    Floyd L.
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    This very good question points to how the poor and misinformed are ‘divided and conquered’ by the wealthy and powerful. Many such persons voted less for what they hoped a Bush would do for them than against what they feared a Gore would do for blacks and others. They have been led to believe that their true enemies are blacks who are robbing them of the lifestyles they desire and not the wealthy and powerful (mostly whites) who have claimed for themselves the whole pie except some small sliver left for the disadvantaged to fight over. These poor whites have been race-baited out of joining in with blacks and others so disadvantaged to demand a larger piece of the original pie. Their behavior feeds the concentration of more wealth and power and reinforces hostilities where good judgment says there should be none. The rich and powerful become even more so while the trailer parks just keep growing. But this is not new. The same attitude was cultivated among poor whites who supported slavery in the South, even though slavery was to their economic disadvantage, taking jobs these poor whites would otherwise be paid to do and filling them with the free labor of black slaves. Those poor Southern whites, who had little or no education, were hoodwinked by those very whites who owned everything (including the land, the slaves, the institutions and all of the power) into despising the slave instead of the institution of slavery, which debased both the slave and the poor white. They had been so brainwashed that they could not see that getting rid of slavery was to their benefit also.

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    Name : Floyd L., Gender : M, Age : 59, City : Memphis, State : TN, Country : United States, 
    #28840

    Treilly
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    Two of the reasons would be abortion and gun control. But I feel the main reason is the way the democrats and republicans treat citizens. The republicans believe in individual rights and the democrats believe in group rights. The result of this difference harms, mostly, poor whites. A poor black person has numerous government and public organizations to turn to for help, and have millions of dollars of aid at their disposal. If a poor black wishes to start a small business numerous governmental angencies will make funds and training available, if he or she wishes to educate themselves the UNCF will provide funding along with other black-specific tuition aid outfits. Additionally, when enrolling at these schools poor whites must compete with all races for admission while blacks are able to get by with lower grades and test scores. Almost every governmental organization (NASA, FCC, HUD etc.) have offices specifically designed to help only blacks. The list goes on and on. Whites are denied these opportunities. This is very significant considering that without government subsidies or contracts the overwhelming majority of black business would fail The democrats wish keep this racism alive and deny poor whites these opportunities. Because blacks vote 90% for the democrats and white voters tend to show more diversity the democrats have no need to appeal to such a powerless, fractured group. By continuing to lie to the people, about made-up racial incidents such as the vote in Florida the democrats keep a firm hold on the black vote. In short, the republicans favor providing opportunities to all American citizens regardless of color, which helps poor whites, the democrats believe that judging people by race and providing opportunies based on race is most important.

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    Name : Treilly, City : Bloomfield MI, State : MI, Country : United States, 
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    Treilly24878
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    I find your commments interesting. On the topic of race-baiting, I do remember the Democrats linking Bush to the Texas dragging death, I heard the Democrats talk about the ‘the lynching of the black vote,’ and about how a vote for Bush would mean another church would burn. I heard Gore’s own campaign director state that they ‘can’t let the white boys win.’ These comments weren’t from some fringe idiot, but mainstream Democratic operatives. I don’t recall anything close to this coming from the Republicans, which is really amazing, considering the statistics on black/white crime. Perhaps you could give us some examples.

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    #39277

    Anonymous
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    How would you like it if I asked why did a lot of housing project-living black Americans support Gore/Lieberman? Without you dismissing me as racist, let me just ask: Do THEY think Gore would really do THEM good economically? I hardly think so. Liberal programs have done far worse to blacks than conservative ideals. For one thing, the federal government has replaced the wage-earning male in much of the black community. If it weren’t for these insane liberal social engineering programs adept at throwing money at everything, there wouldn’t have been a lot of these problems. I know Y? Forum frowns on posters getting on a soapbox, especially if they are white, so I seriously doubt if you’ll see my response.

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    #37300

    Lucy22470
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    Joe B. says: ‘I know Y? Forum frowns on posters getting on a soapbox, especially if they are white, so I seriously doubt if you’ll see my response.’

    Oh please. Take that chip off your shoulder and actually read the posts on this forum. There are plenty of posts from people up on their soapbox – even from whites. Back to the issue at hand: You want to know, ‘Why did a lot of housing project-living black Americans support Gore/Lieberman?’ News flash – most of them didn’t. Just as most lower-class whites didn’t support Bush. The sad fact is that most Americans didn’t support either candidate. They were too lazy, apathetic or disillusioned to even get out and vote. In my opinion, the lack of voter participation in this country is a much bigger issue than why people are drawn to a specific candidate or political party.

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