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- July 16, 2003 at 12:00 am #40611
G.K.MemberExcuse me, Dave: For one thing, black folks don’t have a claim on committing crimes or violence any more than anyone else on this planet. Furthermore, if you would do some research on the NAACP’s history, you’d find it was created at a time – in the early 20th century – when white people could not only say whatever they wanted but commit virtually any kind of atrocity you can imagine against black people – hangings, killings, shootings – for often no other reason than the simple fact that they could get away with it and never suffer the consequences. They are not a racist organization, and their job is to watch out for discrimination toward black folks – which still goes on in this day and age, whether you want to believe it or not.
And as for the Nation of Islam, puh-lease. Minister Farrakhan was crucified in the media for years -and rightly so – for his anti-Jewish views. I find it funny now that in the past couple of years since he’s toned down his rhetoric a great deal and has expressed more interest in working with Jewish organizations, the media has completely forgotten his existence.
And since when did only white people have a claim on being fair and honest? Try telling that to the people who worked for Enron and got robbed of all their life savings by their own bosses.
To B.V.: What other African-American celebrities with politically incorrect views are you talking about? Ali hasn’t been spouting these views for years, and you can’t even compare what he said with what Rocker said, because Ali had to fight against the stereotypes of what a black boxer was supposed to do in a much more racist time. Another thing: both the NAACP and the Nation Of Islam, even for their rhetoric, have never burned a cross in front of a white person’s home, ran them out of their neighborhood or threatened to wipe them out. The Klan and other white supremacist groups are known for doing all these things, so why the hell haven’t you acknowledged that fact?
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Name : G.K., Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 35, City : Detroit, State : MI, Country : United States, Occupation : Security Guard, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 6, 2003 at 12:00 am #13978
Jackie21222ParticipantOne of the reasons the media doesn’t crucify Muhammed Ali for his past views is because they are just that – past. He and his family left the Nation of Islam because they came to disagree with what was being said… that was decades ago. As for Rocker and Heston… well, they’re sharing their present views.
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Name : Jackie21222, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 22, City : Seacoast, State : NH, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 9, 2003 at 12:00 am #41210
Jackki21226ParticipantWhoa, Dave! The NAACP is NOT a ‘ridiculous organization.’ Their goal is racial equality, and they will assist anyone (regardless of race) who feels they may have been discriminated against. Does the NAAWP make the same offer? Let’s not forget, the NAACP was founded in an era when blacks had no rights, thus the name, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. As a Native American whose heritage also included oppression, surely you would be more understanding.
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Name : Jackki21226, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, City : Louisville, State : KY, Country : United States, Occupation : Nurse,August 22, 2003 at 12:00 am #44673
J-Fleming21265ParticipantOddly enough, there is a NAAWP, started by David Duke, but the more apt analogue would be to the Nation Of Islam. The NAACP is a good organization not defined by political ‘victocrats’, as Larry Elder would say.
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Name : J-Fleming21265, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, City : Chicago, State : IL, Country : United States, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,September 28, 2003 at 12:00 am #34583
ShariParticipantther are alot that black people could get away with that white people can’t. such as the jokes the black comedians make about white people. it all goes back to slavery. now feel we have the right to say what we want.
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Name : Shari, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 17, City : Brooklyn, State : NY, Country : United States, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Upper middle class,October 20, 2003 at 12:00 am #16703
Amber31531ParticipantAnd some would say the same of the Native Americans.
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Name : Amber31531, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Age : 23, City : Greenville, State : NC, Country : United States,January 19, 2004 at 12:00 am #14598
KathyMemberYes blacks do have a history of oppression and violence against others based on differences. Different black tribes. Whites enslaved other whites and blacks enslaved other blacks. There is no excuse anymore for racial revenge. It is time now to stop scapegoating and seeking revenge for past wrongs. Yes whites do have to live with negative sterotypes, every day. We are supposed to be the only race who can hate, the only race who engaged in slavery and the only race who has done anything wrong in all of history. Whites are identified as having only done bad things in history excluding all the good we did and are still doing. Everyone has their bad and good. Lets look at the good instead of continuing this cycle of hatred and racial retribution. For instance we can see that whites ended slavery, a global practice, instead of beating up on little white kids because 400 years ago one of their ancestors MIGHT have owned a slave.
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Name : Kathy, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 37, City : Fresno, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,January 19, 2004 at 12:00 am #19279
KathyMemberWhy do you call blacks African Americans but don;t call whites European Americans? The NAACP is always scapegoating whitey and telling little kids that their ancestors were bad people. They are a bunch of racists who don’t care anything about getting along. Their mission is to promote white guilt and black victimization when they should be promoting racial reconciliation and responsibility for your own actions. White racism isn’t harming blacks today, but scapegoating whites is giving blacks an excuse to believe they don’t have a chance in life. I say that with respect in the hopes that both our races can look inward and learn to honest with ourselves.
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Name : Kathy, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 37, City : Fresno, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,January 19, 2004 at 12:00 am #17546
KathyMember‘Plenty’ of Christians DO NOT believe blacks were cursed. You are taking the ideas of a tiny fringe and attacking all Christians.
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Name : Kathy, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 37, City : Fresno, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,January 19, 2004 at 12:00 am #24236
KathyMemberI know what you mean. I just watched a movie called Traffic and there was a black and hispanic cop staking out a white drug dealers house. The black guys said ‘I wanna nail this guy’ and the hispanic said ‘you want to get the white man’ and they smiled knowingly. Reverse the race of the cops and the dealer and there would be an uproar. The anger among whites is increasing because of this kind of racism and the media ignores it. If we want to end racism shouldn’t we apply the same standards on race to everyone? All societies have an out group who it is acceptable to beat up on. America isn’t ending racism, she has found a new victim.
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Name : Kathy, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 37, City : Fresno, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,February 17, 2004 at 12:00 am #14920
Coolcat32018ParticipantMr. Chris E. Bigot, I really tried to write a response but I just don’t know where to start. Everything you’ve said is wrong. MTV shows white people all the time! And if there were a billion dollar Jewish conspiracy going on I sure wish someone had let me in on it. And only Jews get citizenship in Israel? Have you even bothered to look at their citizenship laws? Do you know that there are currently non-Jews living in Isreal, with citizenships. Where do your facts come from? I’d really like to know. This reminds me of one time where this gentleman told me the reason why there aren’t any floors numbered 13 in any buildings (?): Because all the buildings are owned by Jews and Jews think the number 13 is unlucky. I would have taken offence but this was the same person who told me that they had frozen Einstein’s brain and tried to transplant it and the operation would have worked mind you but as fate would have it Einstein died of a brain disease. Do you believe similar things I wonder.
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Name : Coolcat32018, City : Toronna, State : NA, Country : Canada,February 24, 2005 at 12:00 am #31376
Cal19269ParticipantThere is definitely a double standard in the media and in politically correct society. Minorities can say any outrageous, racist thing they want about the white majority and get a pass. If a white guy says a similar thing, it will cost him his job. There is a reason for the double standard, though. It’s all about power. The more powerful the group, the higher the standard. A good analogy is two brothers, one 5 years old and small and the other 10 years old and much bigger and stronger. The little kid can get away with harrassing his older brother without his parents punishing him too much because everyone knows he doesn’t have the power to do any real harm. On the other hand if big brother bullies little brother, there will be hell to pay because it’s not fair and he could do some real harm. So, it doesn’t really bother me when minorities say racist things about whites. It only makes them look ingnorant and at the end of the day, we still have more of everything.
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