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So many women I know want to get rid of all the negatives of male-dominated, pre-feminism society, but then they want to keep all the perks (‘But I’m a girl, can’t you do it for me?’) What’s the deal?
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Name : Nathan H., Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Methodist, Age : 16, City : St. Louis, State : MO, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : Less than High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,Yeah, girls sometimes still want guys to do the heavy lifting. And guys have their lazy moments, too, expecting girls to do the dishes. We all secretly want to have all the perks of being an adult human being while doing the minimum amount of work/responsibility. Some of the excuses we use to get out of doing something are gender-related because that excuse happens to be handy. My spouse says: ‘Can’t you sew on this button? You’re better at it,’ even though he is in the same house with the same needles and thread in the cabinet as I am. For each time you hear a female saying, ‘But can’t you do it, you’re the guy?’ look for an equal number of times that you expect someone else to do the work because they’re a girl (your mom to do the laundry, etc.) – see if it balances out. And see if you don’t hear a lot of other excuses that aren’t really indications that someone doesn’t want to do something regardless of gender.
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Name : Kelly, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, City : Austin, State : TX, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,The statement ‘So many women I know want to get rid of all the negatives of a male-dominated, prefeminism society…’ is a very unfair statement. The negatives of the post-feminism society today include negativity towards women, not equality, a negative self-esteem among women etc. I think women (and men) want to be valued and respected by one another. Political correctness (sic)embraces equality between the sexes in every possible way, rather than teaching mutual esteem and respect. It is not demeaning for a woman when a man opens a door for her(or the other way around), or lets her go first. Women’s liberation didn’t truly liberate women, but enslaved them to compete in a world enslaved to power, physical beauty and greed.
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Name : Arnold-U, City : Edmonton, State : NA, Country : Canada,Women generally like to be treated as equals in the workplace, but on dates and other times they like the gentlemanly things done for them such as doors and coats and such. Women like to be treated like ladies, but also taken seriously, and that’s not so difficult to understand. However, many women and men like to abuse their gender role when something unpleasent comes along, and I think it should be pointed out to them that they are just being lazy unless there is merit to what they ask, such as a toothpick woman asking a man to lift something she just isn’t strong enough to lift.
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Name : Avalikia-K23415, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 18, City : Provo, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Volunteer, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,Women are generally weaker than me. WHat is the problem with helping me open a tight jar? I’m right behind you, what is the problem with holding the door for me? If you aren’t busy there shouldn’t be a problem helping anyone. I am not saying it is right for women to use the fact that they are female to get perks but why not help a sister out? Would’t you want help? WHether you asolutley needed it or not? I use the female card. There are certain things I think men should do. Just to preserve societal rules and guidelines. When you have rules then things are less complicated. The person who asks a person out should pay, and I don’t plan on asking anyone out. Negative attitudes about any group of people is bad. And no gender should dominate but we should have set roles. Things would be less complicated if we did. I would have no problem with having dinner ready for my man and cleaning but I am not going to sit at home not using my expensive education to help provide for my family. And since I am helping to provide for our family the man shouldn’t have a problem with cleaning sometimes or cooking sometimes.
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Name : Jenni, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 21, City : Houston, State : TX, Country : United States, Education level : 2 Years of College,If I am lifting something heavy, I usally have a guy appear in front of me and say ‘Here, let me get that for you.’ Men hold open doors, I walk through them. My husband offers to vacuum the floor, I say okay. To me, it’s accepting help from someone, not a male – female thing.
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Name : Laura, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 24, City : Small Town, State : AZ, Country : United States, Occupation : Bartender, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Lower middle class,I work in an office compose largly of women. Now even though I make quite a bit more then the student workers, and as much as other grad students I still get asked to move hang push brake or fix just about everything. Sure if there is male student worker in the office the will ask them first, but if there are four female student workers and three female grad assitants, it is time to look for me. If I need help moving something women always volunteer the time the next male student work will be there. Now of course when it comes to cleaning the kitchen, that is a duty we all must share equally. After all we can’t expect women to clean, but men are just so much stronger or taller or just plain enjoy doing that kind of work. Maybe they have a point when I through my back out at work and could not walk for a week, I spent a lot of time lounging in bed. That was nice.
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Name : Marc J., Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 22, City : Willimantic, State : CT, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,The point of feminism was to give women and men equal opportunities to explore different aspects of life which stereotypes may have prevented them from doing; not to force women into a new equally unacceptable role that they will just want to escape from later.
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Name : Ashley23478, Gender : F, Age : 18, City : Charlotte, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Social class : Upper middle class,i would venture that it’s also perhaps a bonding issue. when i ask my man to do something for me, and he does it (on the rare occasions that he does it without grumbling) it sort of makes me look up to him more. admire him more. not that it makes me feel inferior, it makes me feel comfort and security.
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Name : sarah, Gender : F, Race : American Indian, Age : 25, City : Amherst, State : MA, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College,
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