Those atheist homophobes

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    Bert
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    As an atheist but not a homophobe, I am baffled by this question. Are you implying that only people with some form of religious conviction can feel strongly about anything? Surely it is obvious that if someone determines that they disapprove of something on their own without it being declared a sin, they will have just as strong a feeling about it. You also seem to think that all atheists have an “anything goes” attitude. You imply that if you said you “interfered” with farmyard animals, then because atheists have no religious reason for finding this disgusting, they would be happy for you to carry on like that.

    I cannot understand why anyone would disapprove of anyone’s sexual preferences, as long as they are consensual. However, to assume that those without religion have no moral code or no vehement beliefs is naive and insulting. Atheists have a lack of belief in God, not a lack of morals. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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    Santiparam
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    As a gay man, I have noticed that quite often the people who have expressed their disapproval of my orientation are not religious; many even claim to be atheists. How do they justify their attitudes? I can disagree with people with religious motivation while still understanding their reasoning, but it escapes me why people who profess no interest in, or lack belief in, a supreme being or beings would be so vehement in their thought. Any ideas?

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    Campbell McGregor
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    To quote Isaac Asimov in Foundation: ‘When did prejudice ever follow any laws but its own?’

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    Kerry
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    I think at issue here is the only ‘arguments’ that I’ve seen against homosexuality have been religious in nature, and that wouldn’t hold true for an atheist. What do they have to get upset about?

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    jane
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    possibly because logically, homosexuality seems unnatural…. due to the basic physical attributes (i.e. penis goes in vagina)

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    Stevie27713
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    I agree with that also…although I’m not an athiest I can say just cuz they dont Believe in God doesnt mean they dont have morals. I was kinda surprised with what u said cuz usually when someone brings up gays vs. someone, that someone usually turns out to be religious people. Which I believe is wrong cuz I being a christian I dont like the act so to say but it wont cause me to not like the person. hating someone for their sexual preferrance is wrong.

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    #37563

    Sathya
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    You are proceeding with the assumption that most (or a great deal) homophobia proceeds from religious grounds; from moral objections grounded in the teachings and writings of many religions who appear to condemn homosexuality. I’ll address that issue, regardless of the truth assumption. The vast majority of America’s (and the world’s) population is religious. Athiest (and agnostic) people therefore are surrounded by religions people (and often raised by them), and pick up many attitudes from said religious environment. One of those attitudes can easily be homophobia. One could also argue that the predomninant culture itself is homophobic, regardless of religiosity, and those attitudes are learned by athiests and agnostics. As a final point, many current atheists and agnostics were not born and raised as such, and may have picked up homophobia from that upbringing too, and failed to discard their homophobia with their faith.

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