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- November 14, 2004 at 12:00 am #874
JaymarParticipantWhy does it seem that people in the United States are treated better in almost every aspect if they have plenty of money, while middle-class and lower-class people suffer?
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Name : Jaymar, Gender : M, Age : 38, City : Lexington, State : SC, Country : United States, Social class : Middle class,November 17, 2004 at 12:00 am #32515
AL LEVYParticipantSince the early beginnings of the civilized world there have been class distinctions. Being rich, wealthy or privileged affords an individual certain unspoken rights and privileges that the average working man does not have. It’s sad to say, but we (society) honor and give free passage to those we see as being successful, beautiful or well-off. I fall in the middle-class, and honestly, I don’t feel any less privileged that anyone else. It’s a state of mind, I guess.
A man of your years should know by now that success in life is measured in many ways, and money, more than anything else, is the greatest measure.
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Name : AL LEVY, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Baptist, Age : 33, City : Virginia Beach, State : VA, Country : United States, Occupation : Military, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #46866
GatorboyMemberIn this culture, money is approximately equal to power. If you make that substitution in the question, then the answer seems clear. There are other sources of power, for instance knowledge, or association. That’s why it is generally recognized that education leads to a ‘better’ life, and why networking is a common practice in business.
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Name : Gatorboy, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 55, City : Melbourne, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : retired, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #34880
AndrewParticipantI think the only reason they get treated better would be based on circumstances. My friend who’s black and a musician hated dealing with other blacks because they didn’t have any money and he got tired of the talk and no money when he played. Whenever he saw white people coming he of course was generally happier because they didn’t b*llshit but put their money where their mouth is. I treat people with money with disdain because they usually act as if their sh*t doesn’t stink. I worked with people who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and I basically stay away from them because they think everyone whould stop what they’re doing and kiss their ass. I stay away from these people – they are repulsive.
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Name : Andrew, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 47, City : Parker, State : CO, Country : United States, Occupation : Information Technology, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #43603
MrsCoopParticipantRich is easy to identify. If you work in a service industry where tipping is customary, it would be foolish to cater strongly to the shabbily dressed while the woman with the fur coat and the man with the Armani suit wait But I can’t say it is always true. While I have been handed a menu before being seated at a nice restaurant (the hostess’ attempt at giving me a graceful way to depart if I could not afford it), I have also been treated like a princess in another restaurant when I arrived in my scuffed black flats and my husband in an ill-fitting suit (both purchased at Sears for a combined cost under $150). The middle class have money to burn, and we poor folks sometimes don’t know when to keep our hard-earned nickels and dimes in our pockets, either, so I don’t feel discriminated against. Who brings in more revenue in a year: that fancy restaurant I went to in New York City or the McDonald’s a few blocks away in Times Square that has no dress code?
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Name : MrsCoop, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Baptist, Age : 27, City : E Stroudsburg, State : PA, Country : United States, Occupation : Administrative Assistant, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #34727
M. FrancisParticipantI treat all people with respect and dignity. Income or formal education have no bearing on that and many if not all of my friends feel the same. You are the person you are, and believe it or not, money will not change that. If you speak with respect, you will receive respect. The one thing that can change without money is attitude.
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Name : M. Francis, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 48, City : Black Rock City, State : NV, Country : United States, Occupation : Upper Management, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Upper middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #15541
Aaron25007ParticipantRich people are not any better than the rest of us. I know many millionaire couples. They suffer from the same problems you and I do. They have family problems, eating disorders, suicides, everything. In fact, I have known rich people who received their money as a gift and have opted to waste it because they could not handle the stress. If you want respect, act like it. If you know what you are doing, people will follow and respect you. Rich or poor.
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Name : Aaron25007, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 26, City : Seattle, State : WA, Country : United States, Occupation : Export, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #26296
Ken26419ParticipantUsually the people I hear ask that question are in the lower class. I am middle class and have worked hard for everything I have. If you do not educate yourself and work hard, you get what you get. If you live in public housing and get food stamps, you have no right to complain unless you are elderly, handicapped or are unhealthy. The rich do probably get treated better, but they are bigger contributors to society and pay more taxes.
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Name : Ken26419, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 40, City : Peoria, State : IL, Country : United States, Occupation : Sales, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #40141
JamesMemberNow I know that a lot of people are afraid of communism, as it should be due to what we have seen come from it in past years, however to answer your question I would have to suggest you take time and read the short but meaningful Communist Manifesto. I am by no means a communist, but I read the book which is by Karl Marx and I learned a lot and it changed me a lot. For me it also answered your question about what Marx called ‘Class antagonisms’. Enjoy.
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Name : James, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 18, City : Crawfordsville, State : IN, Country : United States, Occupation : Cashier/Student, Education level : Less than High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #40157
C-ReedParticipantIt’s a cycle: the rich have access to the most elite academic institutions in the world, which gives them an automatic advantage when it comes to obtaining positions of power. Once they been able to gain a position of influence, they can create laws and policies that benefit their peers.
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Name : C-Reed, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 23, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Occupation : graduate student, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #30943
EdParticipantCan’t help but wonder if this was posted by a troll. Can anyone name a single culture, anywhere in the modern world or in world history, where the wealthy didn’t get better treatment than the common folk?
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Name : Ed, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 34, City : New Haven, State : CT, Country : United States, Occupation : editor, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,May 12, 2005 at 12:00 am #27125
DanicaParticipantI think it is an illusion that the rich get treated better. It seems that way, but if you look closer you will see it is not. A good example of this is people who fly first class. Yes, they get better seats and better food, but that is about it. They pay a significantly higher amount for this, and really don’t get that much better service. The rich have money, and everyone wants it. If a rich person walks into a car dealership and makes it known that he or she is rich and wants to buy an expensive car, that car salesman is going to be extremely nice to that person. But it’s only because they want some cash, not because the rich person is more worthy of a person. And rich people get ripped off a lot more. A rich person may get quoted more for a service than a middle class or lower class person. This happens a lot. People don’t feel bad about taking their money.
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Name : Danica, Gender : F, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 28, City : Burbank, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,May 15, 2005 at 12:00 am #26591
StanleyParticipantI applaud your reading something many in your age bracket don’t do. I would suggest reading about real world communism. Written by a man born in to a communist family. His family story is in the book ‘Left Illusions’ by David Horowitz. Outside of it’s vastly more important information one paragraph stood out in my mind. Mainly because it effects all of mankind. This is from the chp. titled ‘The Road to Nowhere’ pg. 137 in my hard back edition. ‘These mundane symbols of consumer capitalish revealed the real secret of the era that was now ending, the reason why the Iron Curtian and it’s Berlin Walls were necessary, why the Cold War itself was an inevitable byproduct of socialist rule: in 1989, for two hours’ labor at the mimimum wage, an American worker could obtain, at a corner Sizzler, a feast more opulent, more nutritionally rich and gastronomically diverse than anything avaliable to almost all the citizens of the socialist world (including the elite) at almost any price.
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Name : Stanley, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 54, City : Las Vegas, State : NV, Country : United States, Occupation : Cabinetmaker, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,May 25, 2005 at 12:00 am #33046
BillMemberHaving worked in the hospitality sector for a while, the first reason that springs to mind is that rich people have more money to tip people with. When I assist celebrities or millionaires where I work, I’m especially optimstic about getting a generous tip, so naturally I bend over backward to please them.
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Name : Bill, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 43, City : Naples, State : FL, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,May 25, 2005 at 12:00 am #40217
Hollis-HParticipantOne of the basic tenets of ancient Judaism was that God favored the good people with material success and punished the bad with ill health, poverty and bad luck. In spite of the best attempts of Jesus, this attitude grafted itself onto Christianity and hence our civilization. We still speak of ourselves as ‘blessed’ if we are rich, happy and healthy. At some level we probably see the successful and powerful as tight with God and hence entitled to extra respect. The attitude is wrong: at the most basic level our situation is largely dumb luck (where we were born, the wealth of our parents, our inherited set of talents, etc.), and attributing all that to a beneficent God puts a not-so-beneficient face on God from the viewpoint of the poor. That just can’t be right.
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Name : Hollis-H, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 66, City : Kansas City, State : MO, Country : United States, Occupation : Mediator, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, - AuthorPosts
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