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- September 14, 2004 at 12:00 am #27265
jamesMemberwe do not believe in heaven and hell in a traditional sense. we look forward to returning to our Heavely Father and living with Him and Jesus Christ, and we belive all men and women have this opportunity. we believe that ‘hell’ is a punishment that the wicked do recieve for their sins, but that such punishment is limited and does not amount to eternity in a lake of ‘fire and brimstone’. we believe that through the atonement of Jesus Christ, if one is faithful and follows him, and tries his/her best to repent of their sins, that we will not suffer the torment of hell. this is a very concise answer to a more complex discussion.
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Name : james, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Mormon, Age : 45, City : Glendale, State : AZ, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,September 14, 2004 at 12:00 am #44474
Bob ButlerMemberAs most things, there are many points of view. To get the ‘Official’ belief of the Mormons, the best source is from the church. Visit ‘The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ either of these two sites: http://www.lds.org or http://www.mormon.org. On the other hand there exist numerous anti-Mormon sites, too. These are available on-line by searching, using the phrase ‘anti-Mormon’. I am a ‘Jack-Mormon’. I once believed in the totality of the Church, but no longer do. However, if I was to be encountered with proof positive of the existence of God, there would be only one place where I’d go … and that’d be to the nearest LDS Chapel to bet myself prepared for an afterlife. I am not a believer because, in my opinion, I found reason to not believe. However, for the 10 years when I was a believer, I was a full tithe-payer; plus, I made a sincere effort to perform all of the tasks which a believer is expected to do. In the KJV of the NT, there is a statement which helped me to become an LDS. It was the one about a good tree bearing good fruit. In the USA and World-wide, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have the highest levels of overall scholastic accomplishment, general physical health, stable marriages, and economic prosperity in Christendom. This says much as to the wisdom of the NT quote above mentioned. To use another NT quote: ‘Seek and you will find’. Because we all see the same thing thru different eyes, you may not see what I’ve seen. However, if you seek … you’ll find; and conversely, if you don’t … you won’t.
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Name : Bob Butler, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Secular Humanist, Age : 59, City : Newport News, State : VA, Country : United States, Occupation : Sales, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,September 15, 2004 at 12:00 am #18807
JD-RicksParticipant‘Mormons’ actually prefer not to be called Mormons. We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As this name implies, we are believers in Jesus Christ as our Savior and as God. To answer your question briefly, Yes, we believe in Heaven and Hell. But it’s not quite as simple as ‘Good/Bad,Heaven/Hell.As Christ taught, ‘In my Father’s a house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.’ John, 14:2 KJV. We believe that all humans will be judged according to how well they have lived in accordance with God’s laws as taught in the Scriptures. Since, obviously, not all humans are familiar with the Scriptures, then we will each be judged according to how well we did with what we knew in this life. Each of us will be accorded a place in the hereafter based on their behavior in this life. Jesus emphasized kind treatment of each other. Christian or non-believer, everyone has a concience that dictates correct actions in human relations. Our ‘mansion’ and whether it ends up a place of rest or torment will be determined in large part on how we treat our fellow human beings. Since we all make mistakes, Christ’s ‘grace’ can atone for the sins of sincere individuals.
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Name : JD-Ricks, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Disability : crippled with arthritis, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 50, City : Mesa, State : AZ, Country : United States, Occupation : mechanic, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,September 16, 2004 at 12:00 am #25870
B-JensenParticipantMormons believe in both heaven and hell, but not in the traditional manner of floating around with wings or burning in eternal flames. We believe the afterlife is a continuation and a reward for what we do here. We put a high priority on knowledge and education as that is the only thing we take with us. Eternal progression is a key concept. We can continue to grow and progress in knowledge and power as long as we do the things that God asks us to do. OBedience to the commandments is important.
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Name : B-Jensen, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 55, City : Concord, State : CA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,September 16, 2004 at 12:00 am #18026
richard29752ParticipantMr Gomez-Latter Day Saints believe theere are 3 levels of heaven.The levels from top are celestial,terestial,telestial.Latter Day Saints(there are seveal differewnt denominations)believe in hell-go to rlds.org for further info
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Name : richard29752, City : west palm, State : FL, Country : United States,September 29, 2004 at 12:00 am #20381
Walter NicholesMemberMormons believe that after this life there is a waiting period where the body rests in death and the spirit enters the next existence. In this place those spirits who have finished their essential spiritual growth will work with (teach and minister) to those who have not yet finished their spiritual growth. It could be said that this dichotomy represents heaven and hell, but that would probably be an over statement, as well as an extreme simplification. After this period there will be a resurrection of the body – Through the atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ this is a benefit to all regardless of how they lived their life in mortality. Following this there is an individual judgement which will be predicated on the life of the person, the choices made, and sins repented of (and forgiven through the atonement of Christ.) At this time the person will be assigned to one of several rewards, sometimes called Kingdoms or Glories. Of these, the highest allows that resurrected men and women will be allowed to continue in their marriage relationship, and to continue in their posterity. Some will also go to this kingdom who were otherwise qualified, but who did not choose Eternal Marriage in mortality. These will live here in a non-married state. Second to that is a kingdom where those go who were honorable and just in life, but who did not receive or desire the ordinances of Christianity – Baptism and the Holy Ghost – by the proper authority, until after they died. This presumes that they had a chance during their mortality to do so. (They will not be unjustly penalized if that opportunity was not theirs in mortality.) Third is a kingdom that will receive most of the others who were not just or fair in life. These are said to be those who rob and kill and steal and so forth. Those who have wilfully harmed others and never repented. Not much more is said about this place. Finally there is a place for the most wicked – those who have shed innocent blood, or who have had a perfect knowledge of the truth about Christ and have rebelled against it. This kingdom is a place of no glory, and is sometimes called ‘Outer Darkness.’ It is said that only those who go there will know what it is like.
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Name : Walter Nicholes, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 54, City : Orem, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : computer programmer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,November 23, 2004 at 12:00 am #27874
David MalanParticipantOur basic tenet is that the afterlife depends upon the choices we make during this mortal existence. Those who accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ and follow Him–to the best of their ability–will be accepted by Christ and through Him gain salvation, eternal life, and the privilege to return to the presence of God, the literal Spiritual Father of all mankind.
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Name : David Malan, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 34, City : Provo, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Database Admin, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,November 24, 2004 at 12:00 am #23820
PatrickParticipantMormons believe that God has prepared a place for each of his children according to the life and choices they made. This would be ‘Heaven’ in most other religions with the final destination almost always being better than any place on Earth. God has laid down some basic rules for two purposes. 1. To prevent us from being stupid and hurting ourselves (like any good parent). 2. To lay a good foundation to build character. Our choices and obediance to these commandments let us decide what kind of hereafter. Those who choose God are with him for eternity. They will be pure in heart. Other ‘good’ people who do not follow His commandments will not be with God but will be in a place with other like people. This in a way would be ‘Hell’ because God will not be there but it will still be a wonderful place because God loves his children. But it won’t be as good as it could be and the people there won’t be as good of quality as those with God. And so on down the line according to God’s infinite wisdom and judgement. At the bottom will be horrible people like Hitler, Stalin, etc. We don’t believe in a Fire and Brimstone hell but who you want to spend eternities with those guys? Thats Hell. Try http://www.mormon.org for more answers from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the official name)
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Name : Patrick, Gender : M, Religion : Mormon, Age : 27, City : Bremerton, State : WA, Country : United States, Education level : 2 Years of College,November 24, 2004 at 12:00 am #34349
KevinMemberThe LDS Church, more commonly known as the Mormons, has a very distinct view of Heaven, and Hell. We believe that as tought in the New Testament and the Book of Mormon that there are three degrees of Glory in heave, the Terestial, Telestial, and Celestial. Listed in order of magnitude, Celestial being the highest degree of Glory and the home of our Heavenly Father. We believe that for the most part, all human beings will achieve at least the Terestrial level. There is a concept of Hell that the LDS faith terms Outer Darkness. This would probably come the closest to Hell. In reality, it is the absence of the presence of our Heavenly Father. There is much more to know about the LDS concept of Heaven and Hell. I would suggest contacting your local LDS church and asking for more information from the local Missionaries.
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Name : Kevin, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 29, City : Warsaw, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : IT Manager, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,November 24, 2004 at 12:00 am #46692
Robert29723ParticipantMormons see Heaven and Hell in different terms than main-stream Christians. They believe in 3 heavens, or 3 degree of glories found in I Corinthians chapter 15. It is a severe misinterpretation of scripture. Mormons believe that where you go, heaven or hell, depends on what you do on earth and how good you are. A works based religion. If you’re really good you will get to the Celestial or top heaven. All Christ’s atonement did was to give you eternal life which in the Mormon’s eyes, resurection. Hell is outer-darkness. You spend a period of time there and when you’re good enough you can get out. Only those who leave the Mormon church, called apostates, will spend eternity in hell. I was Mormon for 20 years so I am very familiar with there evil doctrine.
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Name : Robert29723, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 34, City : Mesa, State : AZ, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,November 24, 2004 at 12:00 am #46734
CurtMemberare very good people but they do have a few beliefs i do not share one being that their founder decides who gets in heaven and that only Mormens will be on the top level of heaven. Some of their better ideas I feel is their devotion as they have people on 2 year missions trying to bring people to accept Jesus, which is definatly good.
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Name : Curt, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 35, City : pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Occupation : self employed, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Middle class,November 25, 2004 at 12:00 am #30223
DonParticipantMormon belief regarding heaven and hell is more complicated than an ‘either-or’ categorization. We believe that men will be judged according to their works based on their faith in Christ and that through his sacrifice sin can be forgiven. One important element of Mormonism is that when you die you are not done being tested. At death your spirit enters a spirit world and continues to make right or wrong decisions and will have the opportunity to learn the true nature of God and decide whether to accept or reject it. Although, it appears for some reason these decisions are more easily made in this life. Those who believe, repent, perform good works, and receive important ordinances live with God for eternity in what is termed the ‘Celestial Kingdom.’ Those who believe but fail to make the most of their mortality are taken to the Terrestial Kingdom. Those who are adulters, murderers, refuse to repent, and are generally in this life really bad people are taken to the telestial kingdom. With that said understand that even the telestial kingdom is considered a paradise, and a place of rest where these people will gain peace. For those who know God and rebel against there is another place called Outer Darkness – this is a very select group (Satan, probably Judas, etc. . .).
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Name : Don, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 30, City : Springville, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Attorney, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper class,November 26, 2004 at 12:00 am #45131
T.C.ParticipantMembers of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe that those who have faith in Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, are baptized for a remission of sins, and endure to the end will return to live with God in Heaven. They also believe that there are other destinations or degrees of heaven depending on the righteousness or unrighteousness of people. They believe there are three degrees of glory (destinations) that humanity can obtain and where they will reside for eternity. This is determined on judgement day by Christ himself. While there is a place, sometimes called hell (called Outer Darkness within the LDS church), where the worst of people will go, hell also comes from knowing you could have obtained a higher glory had you followed the teachings of Christ.
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Name : T.C., Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 35, City : Salt Lake City, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Management, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,November 26, 2004 at 12:00 am #44484
LauraMemberOkay, well first, let me say this. We don’t technically believe in a heaven and a hell, or rather, we don’t believe in hell. You can look up what I’m about to talk about in any Book of Mormon, in D&C (Doctrine and Covenants) 76:50-98. Rather than a hell, we believe in three kingdoms. The first is the Celestial, where the strongest (in faith, not in body) and most worthy are bound to dwell. The second is the Terrestrial, a little different. This is where those who do not recieve our gospel in this life, but are taught in the next, go. Third is the Telestial. This is where the murderers and evil men (and women) go. It’s not necessarily a hell, because they are ministered to by angels. What we do believe in that -might- be considered a hell is Outer Darkness. But those who go here are of a different class altogether. They have a perfect knowledge of Christ and the Father and then -deny- it. They are called the sons of perdition. ‘They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;’ Our beliefs don’t dictate two singular places, because there are different levels of goodness, faith, and many other important principles. Anyway, I hope this answers your question. I was a little dissapointed that the Religion option did not offer me a true religion I could choose; the name ‘mormons’, is just a nickname, and not at all what we like to be called. Now, be aware, I may have messed up somewhere here. I reccomend talking to an actual Latter Day Saints church official. I’m only sixteen, and know what I have been taught, but there is always more.
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Name : Laura, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Mormon, Age : 16, City : Orem, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : Less than High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,November 27, 2004 at 12:00 am #37139
Jeffrey31199ParticipantThe Latter day saints believe that those who accept Jesus Christ and strive to live his teachings will go to heaven and those who reject him will go to Hell which will be during the millinium when Christ returns. Those members who are sealed (married) in the temple and strive to keep their covenants that they make there will be exalted and live with God the Father. JEFF
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Name : Jeffrey31199, Gender : M, Religion : Mormon, Age : 35, City : High Desert, State : CA, Country : United States, - AuthorPosts
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