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- May 2, 2004 at 12:00 am #9289
nbsParticipantI was at a butcher’s section of Safeway and a Muslim lady was very scared and wore three layers of gloves in the same hands in order to pick some pork chops up. Why are Muslims and Jews so scared of pork? Do they think there is some disease in there like AIDS? Smallpox? Satan’s possession? Soul?
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Name : nbs, Gender : F, Age : 30, City : New York, State : OK, Country : United States,May 9, 2004 at 12:00 am #36982
alishaParticipantpork well ok jews believe that you should not eat an animal with a split hoof, something about the devil yes. also pork when you cook it and everything there is one living cell remaining. a cell that doesnt die. therefore they are eating a living thing..
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Name : alisha, Gender : F, Age : 20, City : sydney, State : NA, Country : Australia,June 6, 2004 at 12:00 am #24366
EJParticipantI cannot speak for Muslims, but Jews are not allowed to eat Pork. Jews are only allowed to eat animals that have spilt hooves and that chew their cud. That’s why cows are fine, as well as deer and goat and lamb. However, pigs only have split hooves but do not chew their cud. Yet, there is no prohibition to pet a pig (if you so desire) or move pork out of the way at the local meat section of your supermarket to get to something you want.
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Name : EJ, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Jewish, Age : 28, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,January 26, 2005 at 12:00 am #25355
RalphMemberPork is ‘Unclean’ according to Jewish and Muslim religions.
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Name : Ralph, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 20, City : Salina, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Looking, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #22276
MargoParticipantI’m not Jewish or Muslim, so will bow to the superior knowledge of anyone who is, but I understand that it has nothing to do with fear of disease, but that pork is ritually unclean, and so not touching pork is a matter of religious observance, sticking to the rules laid out in the Torah or Quran about what is and is not acceptable. I think that the reason that pigs (and therefore pork) is seen as unlean is that pigs are omnivores (so you don’t know what other ritually unclean product you might be eating secondhand) and that they are cloven-footed animals but don’t chew the cud. It isn’t particularly logical, but then since when did logic have anything to do with religion?
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Name : Margo, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 27, City : Manchester, State : NA, Country : United Kingdom, Occupation : lawyer, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #37654
JoshParticipantIn my church we read the Bible constantly so I would know the answer. Also I have studied and read the Quran and know why Muslims don’t like pork. The reason behind this is not that they (Jews/Muslims) think there is something in the pork that will harm them but the symbolism of it. In Leviticus, God told Moses and Aaron the laws of sexuality, morality, etc. In this God portrays pork as ‘unclean’. Many Christians would not smoke or even touch marijuana, it is not because it will kill them on the spot or harm them immediately but because of the belief that ‘drugs’ are malignant to the body. The same belief is practiced by the Muslims. If your religion told you that eating something is not seen as pleasant to your God and is described as ‘unclean’ why whould one eat that?
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Name : Josh, Gender : M, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Pentecostal, Age : 15, City : Los Angeles, State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : Less than High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #34084
TomerMemberI’ve never heard of Jews being scared of pork. Jews aren’t supposed to EAT pork, but the idea of wearing three layers of gloves is as ludicrous to me as it is ridiculous to you. Muslims on the other hand, from what I’ve heard, specifically, almost pathologically, avoid all contact with animals that the quran calls ‘unclean’, specifically, pigs, dogs and monkeys. (This is also where the Muslim denigration of non-Muslims as ‘sons of dogs, pigs and monkeys’ presumably comes from.) The upside of this, as the stories I’ve heard from a friend who grew up in Singapore, surrounded as a skinny little Buddhist kid, by Muslim and Hindu bullies, is that the Muslim bullies would run in terror if he would come at them carrying pork (and the Hindus would supposedly similarly recoil from beef). I have also heard that Muslims, especially Arab Muslims in the Middle East, are terrified of dogs.
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Name : Tomer, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : human, Religion : Jewish, Age : 32, City : Eau Claire, State : WI, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #14630
S HowardParticipantThanks. Are all Muslims alike? I have Jewish and Muslim friends. If only God made a vaccine against Satan’s pork diseases
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Name : S Howard, Gender : M, City : Nwe York, State : NY, Country : United States,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #15154
JasmineMemberFor Muslims, the eating, touching and utilizing of products derived from pigs is strictly prohibited. As in it’s a huge sin. Don’t ask why. I’ve been wondering my whole life, too. A few explanation are that pigs were thought of ‘unclean’ (and we all know the Islamic obsession with cleanliness) because they were observed to roll in mud and consume their own excretion while being reared in pens. Another is that back in the day I’m assuming before ham was cured pork could potentially carry diseases, and pigs could spread hand, foot and mouth disease. It was thought that the prophet banned it outright to play it safe. The other is that pigs are very much like humans in their skin, DNA and organs. So it would be a bit like caanibalism. Technically if she picked it up with gloves it’s still a sin. Oh well.
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Name : Jasmine, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Ceylonese, Religion : Secular Humanist, Age : 24, City : Singapore, State : NA, Country : Singapore, Occupation : Student, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #15937
John29398ParticipantI’ve known for a while that Muslims don’t eat pork. I was going to an international Spanish language school in Spain in 1999. I befriended a Turkish girl. So I’m thinking: ‘those poor Muslims. They’ll never taste a ham sandwich.’ The Spaniards love to eat pork. I didn’t live with a family, but every butcher shop has lots of pork hanging in the window. Lots of the meals in Tapas (think pub-fare) bars are pork based. So, when we passed by one of the butcher shops, she made a scrunched-up face and said ‘Ew! Pork!’ It’s seems like they view eating pork the way most people I know view eating small wild animals. She might as well have said, ‘Ew!! ‘Possum!’
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Name : John29398, Gender : M, City : Chestnut Ridge, State : NY, Country : United States,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #20051
JamasielMemberDifferent parts of each religion will have different takes on it – from not touching, to ignoring the religious rules as outdated and eating it anyway.
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Name : Jamasiel, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : Mixed mongrel., Religion : Taoist, Age : 32, City : Atlanta, State : GA, Country : United States, Occupation : Web Developer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #43374
Jeremy19959ParticipantJews and Muslims are both ‘ children of Abraham ‘ so their dietary laws are very similar. The common sense reason for the prohibition aginst pork is simple: way back in the tribal days in the Middle East, pigs were your all-purpose garbage disposial system – that is one reason they were considered unclean. Another reason for the prohibition is back then and even today, undercooked pork can cause a disease called tritchinosis. The risk these days is minimual but be on the safeside – cook pork to well-done.
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Name : Jeremy19959, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Gay, Race : Human, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 30, City : Huntington Beach, State : WV, Country : United States, Occupation : dishwasher, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Lower class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #43394
DreggasParticipantI believe Muslims also do not eat pork as the meat is considered ‘unclean’ due to how pigs as animals were once viewed, ie wallowing in mud and eating pretty much anything that came their way. Due to the scrounging nature of a pig (they root around in dirt for food and such in nature) they often would get worms which could be passed to humans when they ate the meat. However that is not the case anymore, as in the U.S. most countries have hog farms that feed the pigs grain rather than letting them scrounge for food which usually prevents the pig from contracting any type of disease or parasite found in the ground. However religious doctrines in some religions still forbid the eating of pork so those edicts are adhered to by followers of that religion.
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Name : Dreggas, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Pagan, Age : 25, City : Santa Ana, State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : Software Engineer, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Upper middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #32911
Emily25368ParticipantWe Are NOT scared of pork!! In the Jewish religion pork is not kosher (lawfully eaten) In the Torah (Deutoronomy), Moses instructs his people not to eat pork and shellfish unless it is vital for life (In the Nazi death camps, we had to eat pork), because pork is considered unclean (ever seen the slop that pigs eat?) and so is shellfish. Same with Muslims. Othodox Jews may not handle pork, either. But when a man asked if his son could work at a hog farm, his rabbi said ‘Yes, as it would provide money to feed the family.’ Many Jews (myself included) do not keep kosher, because shellfish is so darn tasty!
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Name : Emily25368, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Jewish, Age : 10, City : Annandale, State : VA, Country : United States, Social class : Upper middle class,October 5, 2006 at 12:00 am #37014
SanauParticipantMuslims are not allowed to eat pork because they are only allowed to eat the meat of animals that don’t eat other animals. Therefore, the meat of cow, lamb, goat and deer are OK. and yeah they can’t have claws. (two hoofs or something) And I also heard a story from someone that, it was believed in Islam that, a tribe of men were turned into pigs and monkeys or so, and therefore cannot eat their meat because they were condemned men. Don’t know the truth about this story, could be an old wive’s tale.
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