Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Cross

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    A.P.R.
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    Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was crucified on a wooden pole and not a cross, if it has been historically proven that Romans used crosses for their crucifixions and not poles?

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    Name : A.P.R., Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Agnostic, Age : 17, City : Washington, State : DC, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class, 
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    JD
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    I’m not a religious person, but I do know that around that most people agree Jesus Christ lived and died the Romans were not using the cross. That came some 60 or so years later. It may also be that Christ was allegedly crucified in a region where wood was not readily availiable. Also to consider: the Jews would not have crucified a criminal, they would have beheaded or stoned him/her. It is possible that millions of Christians should be wearing little axes or rocks around their necks.

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    Name : JD, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Scot, Cherokee, Choctaw..., Religion : Taoist, Age : 35, City : Arlington, State : TX, Country : United States, Occupation : Technician, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    Luis
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    In the Jehovah’s Witness version of the Bible, it doesn’t say he was crucified on a cross but on a wooden pole. It could be a mistake in the translation or just a plain fact. You should speak to a Jehovah’s Witness to get more information if you are really interested.

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    Name : Luis, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Christian, Age : 20, City : San Jose, State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class, 
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    Stacey
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    Actually, I’ve not seen any proof that Romans did use crucifixes. The information Jehovah’s Witnesses use to come to the conclusion that Jesus was sacrificed on a stake and not a crucifix comes from several different non-Witness literature. The Romans were known to use a ‘crux’ during that time period for executions. Despite ‘crux’ being very close to the English word ‘cross’, the basic Roman ‘crux’ was simply an upright pole. Additionally, the Greek word ‘stauros’ is used in the Scriptures. In ‘An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words’ it is pointed out that a stauros was known to be an upright pole or stake. ‘The Companion Bible’ indicated that the word stauros ‘never means two pieces of timber placed across one another.’ This same source indicates that the cross was not originally a Christian symbol but rather originates with the beliefs of Egyptians and the influence of Constantine. An important part of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ beliefs is separating pagan and non-scriptural practices from the truth as presented in the Bible. Most evidence points to Jesus being hung on a stake and not a cross. Although it is an important distinction, it is not one to get too wrapped up in because the Bible also tells us not to worship idols (1 Corinthians 10:14) so whether it be a cross or a stake, we would not want to worship it.

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    Name : Stacey, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Jehovahs Witness, Age : 31, City : Ellicott City, State : MD, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    phillip30427
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    It can be proven that a steak was used. You should talk to them. I used to be one, and can say that everything they say can be backed up by fact. I am not one now, for I cannot keep the strict guidlines the bible lays out that they keep. They do have the true religion, and anyone who dosn’t think so has no idea what they are really about.

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    Name : phillip30427, City : orange city, State : FL, Country : United States, 
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    Lydia
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    To designate the instrument of Christ’s death, Apostle John used the Greek word stau·ros´, rendered ‘torture stake’ in the New World Translation (The translation JW’s use most). (John 19:17, 19, 25) In classical Greek, stau·ros´ denotes the same thing that it does in the common Greek of the Christian Scriptures-primarily an upright stake or pole with no crossbar. Interestingly, John Denham Parsons wrote in the book The Non-Christian Cross: ‘There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross.’ The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible states, with reference to stau·ros´: ‘Literally an upright stake, pale, or pole . . . As an instrument of execution, the cross was a stake sunk vertically in the ground. Often, but by no means always, a horizontal piece was attached to the vertical portion.’ Another reference work says: ‘The Greek word for cross, stau·ros´, properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole, and this always remained the more prominent part.’-The Imperial Bible Dictionary. The evidence indicates that Jesus did not die on the traditional cross. Hence, Jehovah’s witnesses, who once had a representation of the cross on the front cover of their journal The Watchtower, no longer use such a symbol. Nor do they give the stake veneration. Surely, the instrument of Jesus’ suffering and death no more merits such reverence than would the gallows on which a beloved one might have died unjustly. Moreover, God’s Word prohibits such veneration, for it says, ‘flee from idolatry’ and ‘guard yourselves from idols.’-1 Cor. 10:14; 1 John 5:21. Should you be interested in receiving a more detailed answer to your question, feel free to ask one of Jehovah’s Witnesses the next time they ring your door bell.

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    Name : Lydia, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Jehovahs Witness, Age : 26, City : Brooklyn, State : NY, Country : United States, 
    #41726

    Robert-Minter
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    The Jehovah’s Witnesses founder, Taze Russell, had a lot against the Christianity he saw all around him and thus sought to change, however slightly, all the things the other churches expressed. Instead of a ‘Church’, they attend ‘Kingdom Halls’, instead of believing in the lake of fire for unbelievers as the Bible explicitly teaches, he said hell was ‘The common grave’, and Charles Taze Russell also changed the cross (‘Stauros’ in the original Greek) into an upright ‘stake’. He did all this to just be different from the denominations so that he would look unique in his beliefs, but if you take the necessary time to study his evil beliefs, you will see that he denies portions of the Bible, including on how to be saved from the lake of fire. Russell and his followers hate the true biblical teachings on Christ and his church…

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    Name : Robert-Minter, City : Stockton, State : CA, Country : United States, 
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