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- August 12, 2003 at 12:00 am #9688
Bella23337ParticipantTo guys: how do you really feel about women in the workplace in general and female bosses in particular? Do you view ambition as being unattractive in women?
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Name : Bella23337, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Afro-Caribbean, Religion : Christian, Age : 31, City : Washington, State : DC, Country : United States, Occupation : Administrative Assistant, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Middle class,August 28, 2003 at 12:00 am #20264
Brad23153ParticipantI don’t have a problem with women in the workplace except when they’re in large groups. Then it typically devolves into a high-school environment with gossip, petty jealousies and bitching taking up inordinate amounts of time. Then there’s all the birthday celebrations, food days, showers and cards to pass around. It can get unprofessional real quick. I’ve had female bosses and gotten along fine with them. As long as someone’s competent and professional, I don’t care if they’re a man, woman or a transvestite.
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Name : Brad23153, Gender : Male, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 33, City : Omaha, State : NE, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 29, 2003 at 12:00 am #35640
JamieMemberI don’t think there can be many men my age who have a problem with women in the workplace, or female bosses. I’m a man and I like women, so I it’s great to have the opportunity to work with women. As for female bosses, I much prefer them because they are generally less mean and more understanding than men. I view ambition as being very attractive and important in a woman. I think the worst type of woman is a lazy woman who assumes she doesn’t need to earn money because her husband will give it to her.
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Name : Jamie, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 26, City : Torbay, State : NA, Country : United Kingdom, Occupation : designer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,September 2, 2003 at 12:00 am #24475
Matt21828ParticipantI dunno; I never give it much thought in the workplace. When I have a boss, I just do what my boss says. I resent a boss that shouldn’t be where he/she is moreso than what gender is involved. I do think, however, that certain feminist movements ask too much from men in the workplace. If women are to be working alongside men, with equal pay and equal work, they must dispense with this nonsense about how women should be given more sick days than men, because of the requirements that their social role makes of them. If you want equal pay, produce equal work. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If a man’s social role doesn’t make him worthy of higher pay, a woman’s social role doesn’t make her worthy of more sick days. In addition, we must understand the difference between sexual harrassment and mere flirtation, both of which really don’t belong in the workplace. It seems that women wish to reserve the ability to flirt with men, but when an undesirable man flirts with her, it’s harrassment. In short, no, nothing is unattractive about a female supervisor, but be logical. If you want to work with men, hold yourself to the same standards.
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Name : Matt21828, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Christian, Age : 23, City : a strange place, State : TN, Country : United States, Occupation : composer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 21, 2003 at 12:00 am #44243
Mark A.ParticipantI have mixed feelings about women in the work- place. Idealistcally, they have just as much right to work as I do. They have the right to the same pay for the same work, if they know how to negotiate. They have the same right to advancement as I do. My only concern is the ease at which many women pull the harassment card. Many times, I feel like I’m walking on egg shells, just because there is a female in the area and I don’t want to be misunderstood if I say, ‘Your hair looks nice today.’ Or if I have a female friend that I think is progressive enough to handle a blonde joke or a PMS joke, only to be blind-sided with a tap on the shoulder by the boss, saying he wants to see me in his office. …And lastly, ambition isn’t a turn-off as long as it doesn’t make you a ball-breaker about it.
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Name : Mark A., Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 36, City : Detroit area, State : MI, Country : United States, Occupation : Paramedic, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 25, 2003 at 12:00 am #40299
DirkParticipantI like the idea of having a female boss. And I like the idea of women in the workplace. Ambition in a woman is a very desirable quality.
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Name : Dirk, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, City : Virginia Beach, State : VA, Country : United States, Education level : 2 Years of College,January 16, 2004 at 12:00 am #34875
Brian A.ParticipantI do not tend to have a problem with women in the workplace, in general. I think the problem is how women come across to their subordinates in the workplace. I think some women in positions of authority have a problem coming across as authoritative and end up coming across as b*tchy or anal retentive to most people, both men and women. I think they try too hard to come across as men and a man will always have a hard time dealing with that within the workplace. I do not view ambition as unattractive in women, in fact I prefer it.
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Name : Brian A., Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Age : 35, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Occupation : Therapist, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,February 6, 2004 at 12:00 am #19655
ben23357ParticipantI have a female boss who is very driven and ambitious, and I think she’s great. I’ve worked under a lot of male bosses, but (I hope this isn’t sexist) she seems more sensitive to her team, which is nice. A lot of my male friends make jokes about me having a female boss, though, and I have a feeling they would not be able to work in that situation. I honestly can’t understand that, though. I am extremely interested to hear some other responses on this one.
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Name : ben23357, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 31, City : raleigh, State : NC, Country : United States, Occupation : manager, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,February 6, 2004 at 12:00 am #18174
ScottParticipantI’ve never found ambition to be either attractive or unattractive. Simply an attribute… I’ve also never had a problem with having a female boss. (Haven’t always liked the ones I’ve had, but same goes for the males…)
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Name : Scott, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 31, City : Baton Rouge, State : LA, Country : United States, Occupation : Management, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,February 8, 2004 at 12:00 am #24522
Carl19229ParticipantBosses are authority figures, so we relate to them the way we relate to our parents. One of my parents was a woman, so there’s no problems there. But it’s a little alarming when you go on to ask ‘Do you view ambition as being unattractive in women?’ – ambitious or not, I don’t want to view my mother-figure as attractive!
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Name : Carl19229, Gender : Male, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Unitarian, Age : 34, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,February 17, 2004 at 12:00 am #26995
ChrisMemberI evaluate a female boss the same way I evaluate a male boss: Do they know what they are talking about? Are they fair? Do they make good decisions? I’ve had plenty of male and female superiors and that is honestly all that’s ever been an issue. Ditto ambition. I honestly think of it the same way I think of an ambitious man if it is not someone in a relationship with me. If the woman is in a relationship with me, I am more concerned about a balance between workplace ambition and time for me.
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Name : Chris, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Agnostic, Age : 27, City : Salt Lake CIty, State : UT, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,November 27, 2004 at 12:00 am #33258
Rob29703ParticipantI don’t mind it. I have had good and bad relations with male or female bosses and co-workers. It comes down to personality or the clash of it. I don’t view female ambition as unattractive. I am not fond of pushy or bossy people, women included.
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Name : Rob29703, Gender : Male, Age : 29, City : Rockford, State : IL, Country : United States, Occupation : Classified, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower class,April 8, 2005 at 12:00 am #32751
KenParticipantFemale Bosses are OK…IF …they are qualified to lead …they are not selected to satisfy a quota …they act professionally, not using a gender-based excuse for every absence or deficiency of work or leadership …they balance their home life as any other employee and not exploit their position to burden others. …they don’t promote or reward their own sex over consideration of all better qualified people. Now read the same list and ask if a man shouldn’t do the same? Some of the best managers I have ever had are women, also some of the worst (for reasons above). Same for the best/worst men. I think sex discrimination is based on the company. I get to see a lot. Many corporate cultures have a glass ceiling and specific roles for women; a few are considered ‘progressive’ to the point that they discriminate in the other way.
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Name : Ken, Gender : Male, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Lutheran, Age : 50, City : Chicago, State : IL, Country : United States, Occupation : Computer Architect, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class, - AuthorPosts
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