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- December 27, 2004 at 12:00 am #47251
Shawn28112ParticipantLet me ask you – do you ask other brothers and sisters in Christ to pray for you when you have a need? Catholics do not ‘need’ saints to pray for us. We have direct access to the Father, through Christ. However, we take Scripture to heart when it tells us that the prayers of a righteous man availeth much and that those in Christ are not dead. We also look to Revelations, where you can see the Saints in Heaven offering bowls of incense to God, which are the prayers of those on Earth. Catholic prayers to saints is the same – ‘pray’ means ‘to ask’. All we do is ask those Christians that have gone before us to pray for us – the same as when you ask your Elder or Pastor or mom to pray for you. Those in Christ do not die, and their prayers ‘availeth much’.
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Name : Shawn28112, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 29, City : Cincinnati, State : OH, Country : United States, Occupation : Network Administrator, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,April 14, 2005 at 12:00 am #36649
J21565ParticipantI’m sorry if I appear to be working myself into a fuss over this, but it is an issue which is extremely important to me. I believe that the difference you are attempting to enlighten us of is that you do not canonize individuals as saints. Catholics also believe that our relationship with God is personal. It is my understanding that this belief is central to Christianity in general, as well as other religions.
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Name : J21565, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 14, City : Jacksonville, State : FL, Country : United States,September 14, 2005 at 12:00 am #26492
VanceMemberThe United Methodist Church’s origins are in the Church of England. The Church of England, as you recall, broke with the Roman Catholic Church under King Henry VIII and decidedly under Queen Elizabeth I. The Methodist Church became a separate denomination in the 18th century out of the influence of John and Charles Wesley, both Anglican priests. The doctrines of the Anglican Church and Roman Catholic are very similar, but it is in the Protestant family of churches. So it is The United Methodist Church. Notably, the Catholic Church recognizes seven sacraments, the Protestant churches only two — baptism and Holy Communion. A big difference between the traditions is in the Mass itself. The Roman Catholics and United Methodists say virtually the same thing in their respective services of Eucharist, but Catholicism teaches that the physical body and blood of Christ are present on the altar during Mass. United Methodism teaches that Christ is spiritually present at His table. Catholics have certain other tenets such as the assumption of Mary into Heaven, the Immaculate Conception, etc. Now the Immaculate Conception does not merely mean Jesus was born of a Virgin. Methodists believe that. But Immaculate Conception says that Mary was perpetually a virgin, and that the brothers and sisters of Jesus, referred to in the Bible, were actually not brothers and sisters, but likely cousins. In the truly essential orthodox teachings of the church, I believe that United Methodists and Catholics are in agreement. While confession of sin is therapeutic and a Methodist would see nothing wrong with talking to a minister or priest about it, we believe in the priesthood of all believers and that it is not necessary to have the absolution of a priest, who will represent the sinner’s need for forgiveness to God. We believe prayer directly to God in repentance is efficacious. When an infant is baptized in the United Methodist tradition, he is not considered a full member of the church, which comes later at confirmation. A child baptized into the Catholic tradition becomes a member of the church in the fullest sense of the word. There has been and continues to be meaningful dialogue between The United Methodist Church and the Roman Catholic communion. Both treat the other with positive respect and appreciation.
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Name : Vance, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Methodist, Age : 68, City : Macon, State : GA, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,September 28, 2007 at 12:00 am #27568
David WhiteParticipantThe authorities will tell you there is a vast difference, but many individuals are attracted to one or the other or both. The Church of England broke away from the Roman Catholic Church, the then Methodists broke away from the Church of England. We have freedom of religion, so you can do whatever you want. In very broad terms, Catholics tend to favor more insititutional authority, Methodists more individual freedom (or license). The welcome you feel will vary from parish to parish without regard to denomination.
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Name : David White, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Episcopalian, Age : 60, City : Rochester, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : college professor, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,October 6, 2007 at 12:00 am #43054
MÃaParticipantCatholics do have a direct, personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We don’t ‘need’ any intercession from priests or saints (whom we do not worship), any more than a Methodist, or whatever, who asks a friend to ‘pray for’ or ‘keep a good thought’ for him needs that type of intercession.
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