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- How can white men lust after Asian women they apparently hate? I'm a big fan of Asian porn because I find the women very beautiful and sexy. But I can't stand the American-made porn films that feature Asian women. It always shows white men with them, never Asian men, unlike black women who usually are with black men in porn. The white male porn stars are incredibly racist, calling them things like 'yellow sluts' and making racist comments about whites being better than Asian men. The titles of the movies are incredibly racist too, such as 'Slant-Eyed B****es' and 'Sideways C***s'. Why (besides the money) do these Asian women put up with it? Do they have really low self-esteem? I can't imagine black women making films with them being called n*****r sluts. And have any Asian women had to deal with this kind of thing in real life when they date white men?
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Name : Porn-lover30245, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 22, City : n/a, State : ID Country : United States,I don't think porn featuring Asian women and white men is any more degrading than most other interracial porn. I admit that I haven't seen a lot of it, but what I have seen has covered a pretty wide spectrum - Asian women/white men, black men/white women, black women/white men. In these instances, the subject matter appeals to the basest prejudices society holds against each person involved. You rarely see a black woman being lovingly caressed and kissed and all the other stuff when the man is white. Usually, it's some kind of gang-bang scenario, or lots of rough, cold, 'Tthis woman's an animal! Can't get enough!' kind of garbage that's plagued black women forever. With white women and black men, it's usually some kind of mandingo warrior conquers the tender white maiden with his anaconda. I know that different companies have different signature styles. Maybe the ones you've been getting are geared toward the base prejudices and taboos of society. All in all, I think all porn is degrading. Race doesn't really mitigate anything.User Detail :
Name : Jennifer31069, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 31, City : St. Paul, State : MN Country : United States, Occupation : Non-profit, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,99.9999 percent of the real women in the world wouldn't put up with any of the abuse that porn actresses fake enjoy on screen. Most men know this and wouldn't think to try it in real life. Regardless of what race you are, once you cross the boundary and are willing to let paid men ejaculate on your face, it is unlikely you are going to care all that much about what they say while doing it or what they name the movie.User Detail :
Name : Steve27600, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 45, City : Houston, State : TX Country : United States, Occupation : Corporate Cubicle Dweller, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper class,I believe that amidst all the action, porn is actually make-believe, as in the guys in the movie would do things most guys usually don't do in real life, like degrading a woman and calling her names. No, Asian women don't have to deal with these things in real life when dating white men, as these men are usually gentlemanly and loving.User Detail :
Name : Andrea, Gender : F, Race : Asian, Age : 22, City : Singapore, State : NA Country : Singapore, Occupation : Student, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,I have no idea why these Asian women do that, either. I'm Asian myself and would never do that. That's way too ghetto!User Detail :
Name : Cheerie, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Asian, Religion : Christian, Age : 19, City : n/a, State : CA Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,It's kind of revealing of the contemporary male psyche that American-produced porn featuring Asians offends you because it has overtly racist overtones, presumably because:
1) Without the racist overtones it's simply mysogynist, and
2) While your fetish for Asian women is based on the stereotype of them being aquiescent concubines who arrive from pre-pubescence eager to sexually gratify men (a stereotype largely advanced by Asian men), at least you don't call them 'slant-eyes,' right? That would be offensive.This is the legacy of 'PC' - people think lightning will strike them if they say the 'N' word, but that fear doesn't open their eyes any wider.
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Name : Justin26832, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, City : Chicago, State : IL Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,Justin's response is valid, although I'm not sure what he means when he says that asian men perpetuate the stereotype of Asian women as being prepubescent acquiescent sex kittens. I'm not offended - yet. I have no idea why he says that. please explain.User Detail :
Name : dirk, City : new york, State : NA Country : United States,It is possible to be racist against a group but still be sexually attracted to them, because of how strong the sex drive is (especially in men). I mean, in a man's mind, if you have the right womanly parts, and you meet his image of what he considers attractive, then he's going to be turned on bottom line. Racial stereotypes can make this type of sexual attraction and curiosity worse. Asian women for instance are perceived as being docile, exotic, and submissive. This is why white men lust after them, and they are so common in porn. The Asian women (as any woman) take advantage of this lust for money and fame. And since Asian culture appears to be more obsessed with being accepted by whites than other groups, this may further encourage them to denigrate themselves and their race. And lastly to address why Asian men are not with their own women in the porn. The reason is simple -- Asian men are not viewed as being sexual in this society. And porn (like any other form of media) is regulated by stereotypes. If the porn creators think that white and black men fit the bill for what is considered sexy and masculine, then that's what they're going to have.User Detail :
Name : Kristina, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 20, City : Washington, State : DC Country : United States, Occupation : Transcriber, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,The answers to this have been pretty surprising. While I wasn't surprised that some people couldn't see past the 'porn always degrades women' myth (something usually said by conservatives who want to suddenly pose as women's rights activists and even many feminsts don't agree with), I was pretty amazed at how some people answered a question about racist stereotypes with more racist stereotypes of their own. Justin with his old 'wily Oriental men' racism, Andrea with her 'positive stereotype' (if there is such a thing) of white men, and Cheerie with her accusation that Asian women who do this must be acting like blacks or 'too ghetto'...these answers just say a lot about how deeply embedded their own racism is. It really is interesting in the light of all the questions in this forum lately about what Asians think about blacks and whites. It makes me agree with those people who think Asians are obsessed with whiteness and don't care for black people. And Justin, geez...did it ever occur to you that I think Asian women are beautiful not because of that racist stereotype, but in spite of it, because I think their features are beautiful? Did it ever occur to any of you that the reason I prefer porn made in Asia is because it is usually NOT misogynistic like most American porn? That should be the subject of a different post in the Gender category, but in Asian porn movies, the male stars and directors actually care about getting to know the women AS people and seeing the women enjoy themselves. One more thing that still leaves me frustrated...why could no one give me an answer to my main question? How can someone lust after women they hate? Shouldn't these white racist male porn stars not be able to stomach being around these Asian women they hate?User Detail :
Name : Porn-lover30248, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 22, City : The middle of nowhere, State : ID Country : United States,While I certainly don't approve of it. Porn is make believe and appeals to peoples fantazys not reality. For Instance while most people wouldn't want to be tied up and raped in real life, they might actually have a dream or fantazy where something like that happens. Pornagraphy plays on that and it's certainly going to be the least place to find political correctnessUser Detail :
Name : Sherman, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 34, City : Richmond, State : CA Country : United States, Occupation : Contractor, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Middle class,What does that phrase mean, 'way too ghetto'? I'm African-American, and I've been hearing that phrase a lot from people who aren't black, and I find it offensive--especially in the context of your reply! Does this mean, to you, that maybe a black woman in a porn film(or even in real life)should/would put up with such behavior, but it's far too degrading for a 'pristine' Asian woman such as yourself? I would love to hear the explanation for the usage of this phrase!User Detail :
Name : lance, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Catholic, Age : 36, City : Ashburn, State : VA Country : United States, Occupation : writer, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,I don't watch that much porn, but the things you just said depressed the heck out of me. You seriously think porn reflect real life? You should stop watching so much porn and go read a book or something. It is funny that people take porn seriously. It just makes me laugh that guy with no life thinks porn reflect real life. If they didn't do it for money, what did they do it. America is a country full of wolves lusting after money. It is cynical but it is true. Everything people do in this country is for money. Walk outside and breath in the world, the smell of money is everywhere.User Detail :
Name : Asianguy, City : Des Moine, State : IA Country : United States,I am very glad that you do not understand or sympathize with those videos, and you raise a very good question. The answer, to me, is obvious. Porno attempts to gratify and virtually fulfill the fantasies of those that porn companies are targetting. Who are the targets of pornography? In America, mostly white men. Whatever white men fantasize about, or at least whatever porno companies think they are fantasizing about, porno companies try to deliver. Interracial porn is definitely degrading every single time, because it represents some of the basest exploitation of accumulated racial stereotypes and harmful racial myths by white america. The particular case of Asian porn reflects American society's and especially white men's views of asian women exactly. They are thought to be submissive, exotic sex objects, ready to be conquered by a strong dominant white male at any time. Nothing more. This image of asian women is deeply ingrained in american culture and in more widespread venues of the media (movies and TV). Asian women are not the only ones hurt by this image that is continously perpetuated in the media. Asian men also suffer. You were very observant in noting that Asian men are never in porn, not even with women of their own ethnicity. This is absurb, since in reality the vast, vast majority of asian women are in relationships with asian men. It is no accident, but reflects white america's stereotype of the asexual asian man. Asian women are somehow viewed as a race of oversexed women without men. Does this hurt people in real life? Do people have to do with situations in reality? You bet they do. Stereotypes hurt real people when people start believing them. Just ask any asian guy about the White Male - Asian Female to Asian Male - White Female ratio. When ignorant whites assume all asian women are submissive sex objects and start acting accordingly in front of them, that's why real people get hurt.User Detail :
Name : Jonath, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Asian, Age : 19, City : Boston, State : MA Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,
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