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August 9, 2003 at 12:00 am #40301
SixMemberWhere do I start? OK, ‘fart’ is not a curse word, nor is it profane. It is a word with a clear meaning, something many in our societies cannot deal with. It is no worse than ‘flatulate.. In that vein, ‘s**t’ is no worse than defecate, ‘f**k’ than fornicate (or make love), ‘piss’ than urinate, ‘ass’ than buttocks, ‘asshole’ than anus, ‘damn’ than condemn. They are just words to which folks give too much impact. Excluded language is a form of bigotry, used to avoid communicating by those who object to ‘how it was said’ rather than listening to what was said. Function is more important than form.
A little definition is needed here: a curse is a form of prayer – only those who believe in prayer can curse, not those who do not. A curse is a demand that some higher power overcome the laws of nature for one person’s benefit. ‘Goddamn it’ is not a curse because it does not direct its intent at anything. Neither is ‘f**k you’ because no deity is involved. Actually, no deity is ever involved in anything.
The kind of language we should be concerned about is that which someone like our putative president uses. He couches his terms very nicely (though stupidly), but his meaning is clear. He wishes harm on the most helpless while delivering the goods to those who do not need them. He would send my son to war to support his petroleum stock. That should get him a backhand from his mother.
How about ‘eugenics’ (cleansing the race)? Nice word, huh? ‘Police action’ (war)? ‘Freedom Fighter’ (terrorist)? ‘Commander-in-Chief’ (draft dodger and deserter)? ‘Republican leadership’ (draft dodging chickenhawks)? Christian education’ (training school for fanatics and bigots who cannot abide other people – think Bob Jones U.)? ‘Home schooling’ (don’t confuse my children with the reality that mommy and daddy are not always right or that one should be able to abide lots of different opinions)? How about ‘secret information’ for outright lies? S**t, f**k, piss, c**t, c**ksucker, motherf**ker and tits don’t seem so bad now, do they?
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Name : Six, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : mixed race, Age : 56, City : Tallahassee, State : FL, Country : United States, Occupation : retired government employee, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 9, 2003 at 12:00 am #25732
Chris BakerMemberWhen I was growing up, if I cursed in the presence of my parents I would get my mouth washed out with soap. Do you remeber the scene with Ralphie in ‘A Christmas Story’? Well, I had that done to me. If you have not seen that movie: a 10-year-old boy in the 1950s says the ‘F’ word to his folks and the mom puts a bar of soap in his mouth for 20 minutes. I do not think that this cursing thing is limited to just white people. I see the same level of disrespect from other races and economic states (not just poorer folks). One might ask the question in another form: Why are there parents who allow there children to get away with everything? Why are there horribly disrespectful children in every culture? One answer, I feel, is that the perpetuation of bad parenting follows from generation to generation, unless of course a strong-willed child pulls himself of herself out of the cycle and learns to be a good parent. Also, children are constantly pushing their boundries and finding ways to test their parents; so if you watched TV growing up and learned that ‘ass’ was the worst thing you could say on TV, then ‘ass’ would be acceptable around the dinner table and you would most likely not get into trouble for saying it.
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Name : Chris Baker, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 26, City : Summerville, State : SC, Country : United States, Occupation : Graphic Artist, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 9, 2003 at 12:00 am #28205
Matt22030MemberI’m white, and my parents never tolerated me using foul or blasphemous language with them or anyone else in their presence. They didn’t even like ‘Gosh.’ I think this cultural viewpoint you are seeing is not quite as racially determined as you think.
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Name : Matt22030, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, City : Chattanooga, State : TN, Country : United States, Occupation : Music, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,August 9, 2003 at 12:00 am #35112
DanielMemberBeing a white 15-year-old, I can speak from experience that my parents do not tolerate me using profanity toward them. I don’t believe I have ever ‘cussed them out,’ though there have been instances when I wanted to. I do have a few friends who cuss at their parents, but it doesn’t have anything to do with their ethnicity.
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Name : Daniel, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 15, City : Tulsa, State : OK, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Social class : Middle class,November 28, 2004 at 12:00 am #39989
AndrewMemberMy kids nver swore at me when they were young. My teenage daughter flips me off now but I have a long memory. Next time she wants something I’ll bring this up. I will make her suffer the ramifications one way or another. If this is happening it’s because the parents have no chin or backbone. A lot of them are afraid of confrontation but I enjoy the tests my teenagers present to me. It’s all a test to see what parents are made of and sadly, a lot of them are failing it.
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