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If Catholicism doesn’t allow sex without the possibility of conception, does that mean Catholic married couples can’t have sex after a vasectomy, menopause, etc.?
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Name : Jim30694, Gender : M, City : Chicago, State : IL, Country : United States,Most Catholics, my husband among them, look at the teaching of sex for procreation only as a joke. For that matter, vasectomies aren’t permitted under Catholic ‘law’ because that’s a form of birth control, allowing sex without the possibility of pregnancy. To think that millions of people out there quit having sex after the possibility of conception no longer exists is simply laughable. Might as well expect people to quit eating.
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Name : Rachel, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 36, City : Niagara-on-the-Lake, State : NA, Country : Canada, Occupation : Homemaker, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,A true Catholic man cannot have a vasectomy — it’s considered artificial birth control. Same story for female sterilization. (I think menopause is outlawed, too…) Accepted Catholic birth control consists of: Abstinence (yeah, sure, in other words, having kids). Of course, because the earth cannot sustain an unlimited number of people, this means the true Catholic birth control is: War, Pestilence and Starvation. These are the only ‘natural’ ways to control population. This is why my religion is now ‘None’.
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Name : M-Maurer28780, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : no religion, Age : 52, City : Poughkeepsie, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : Programmer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,The Catholic ideal is to be open to the gift of children, but the church recognizes the importance of sex in marriage and the economic necessity to control family size. Fertility awareness is the ideal for spacing children. The church accepts contraception as a side effect of certain medications that are used to treat other problems (birth control pills to control heavy periods or endometriosis), and it recognizes the need for contraception in special situations such as medical problems. They say you should follow your doctors advice when it comes to these types of situations. Even then though they ask that should conception occur you be open to it (i.e. no abortion unless medically necessary). At least this is how the nun who did my premarital counseling explained it when I told her I needed to be on good contraception because should I conceive while on chemotherapy the baby would most likely have problems. The church very much teaches now that couples should enjoy all of the pleasures that marriage brings – including sex.
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Name : Susan MD, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Disability : Lupus, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 37, City : Chicago, State : IL, Country : United States, Occupation : Physician, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Hi Jim, It seems to me that you asked this question honestly, hoping for honest answers and all you got were responses filled with personal hangups. The Church does NOT teach that you can not have sex unless there is the possibility of conception. Otherwise it would require that married spouses only engage in intercourse the brief period each month when a woman is fertile. What it does teach is that married couples, (who are the only ones who should be sexually active in the first place)should do nothing to disrespect the way God created the human body. A healthy adult male and female are fertile. Fertility is not a disease to be cured by surgery or controlled by a pill. Furthermore, in engaging in ‘unprotected’ sex, you are really making yourself vulnerable and open to your spouse. You are saying ‘I love you completely, as you are and I accept that fertility is part of your very nature.’ If you truly love your spouse, you don’t need protection from him or her. In this way, contraception becomes a sort of barrier to complete love. That being said, The Church does not expect a financially struggling couple to keep producing a baby every year under pain of excommunication. Children can be spaced licitly using Natural Family Planning (NFP), which is NOT the ineffective and often ridiculed ‘rhythm’ method popularized in the 60’s. This system of abstaining from sex in the time a woman is fertile is based on scientific information and although it takes a good deal of discipline to practice, can be quite effective. (I knew a couple who married very young, while they were still in college and were able to put off a pregnancy for 4 years until both had diplomas and had begun their careers.) As far as menopause, it is a natural cycle of a woman’s life and there would be no reason why it would preclude intercourse. I hope this answers your question. If you want to know more, http://www.catholic.com has very detailed and complete information on this and other areas of Catholic teaching. Take care
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Name : Monica, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Religion : Catholic, City : Baltimore, State : MD, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,first, let’s clarify your teaching; the catholic church does not say that it is a sin to have sex when there is no chance of conception. the teaching says that it is a sin to do anything either bofore the act, after the act or during the act to intefere with the natural processes of conception. that means birth control divices and pills and withdrawl and anything else that fits into that definition. having sex after menopause is perfectly fine since the couple is not doing anything to interfere with the natural bodily cycle. the woman can’t get pregnant anymore after menapause because god made her that way not because of what she or her husband are doing. vasectomys are out since that would be doing something before the act of sex to disrupt the conception process; the only acceptable form of birth control is natural family planning which consists of understanding the woman’s fertility cycle and abstaining from sex when she has the possiblity of conceiving a child. e mail me and I’ll give you a longer lesson on that one. if a man does have a vasecotmy, yes sex would be out of the question, but they can be reversed these days so there’s light at the end of that tunnel
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Name : William Irwin, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 26, City : Oklahoma City, State : OK, Country : United States, Occupation : insurance adjuster, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,id rather be physicly castrated than let a sernile old guy tell me how to live my life. this is the reason i am an anti-theist
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Name : norbertneuman, Gender : Male, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 17, City : mahtomedi, State : MN, Country : United States, Social class : Upper middle class,
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