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- April 21, 1999 at 12:00 am #1207
SkitherbudParticipantWhat do people feel is worse: Blatant racism, such as KKK rallies, or institutionalized racism, such as cops targeting/pulling over blacks, people thinking there will never be a black president, lack of jobs for minorities, worse schools for minorities, etc.
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Name : Skitherbud, City : San Diego, State : CA, Country : United States,April 26, 1999 at 12:00 am #39705
David S.ParticipantI was going to say that each is equally detrimental, and then changed my mind. Institutionalized racism is like a cancer that grows from within and is extremely difficult to eradicate. This eradication can typically only be accomplished via a complete disruption, and in some cases destruction, to the system. Societal chemotherapy, if you will. Blatant racism is a simpler battle. This is not meant to imply that this form of racism is not as damaging as institutionalized racism. It is just not a systemwide corruption. Its roots do not penetrate through and attach themselves to the basic principles and psyche of society’s machinations. To correct blatant racism, you deal with individuals or small groups as opposed to attempting to adjust the gears, and unfortunately in some cases the foundations, of certain facets of our government and society.
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Name : David S., Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 30, City : Columbia, State : SC, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College,April 26, 1999 at 12:00 am #24929
Mark22099ParticipantA couple of days ago I would have said that KKK rallies, while disturbing and annoying, are as harmless as gatherings by any other group of nut cases (NAMBLA, cultists, etc.) But occasionally tragic events like Colorado come along and remind me that exposing the (hopefully very small number of) people who are capable of killing to a message of hate is a dangerous mix. As for the set of issues you referred to as institutional racism, I still think these conflicts are more hurtful in the long run because they foster the tensions and reactions and anger that eventually lead to the hate necessary for the creation of groups like the Klan. Maybe you can think of overt racism as the spark that from time to time ignites the explosives of racial tensions built up by institutional racism.
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Name : Mark22099, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Age : 32, City : Alexandria, State : VA, Country : United States, Occupation : Married,May 3, 1999 at 12:00 am #44265
Adrienne-SParticipantThe problem with institutional racism is that people who don’t have it directed at them don’t ever see it and don’t necessarily believe it’s racist when they hear about it. So it’s harder to combat, because people don’t believe it’s a problem. Just about anyone can point to a KKK meeting and say, “Those are bad people trying to do bad things.” But when it’s airport security targeting Arabs, people say, “Oh, they’re just trying to ensure my safety.”
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Name : Adrienne-S, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Lesbian, Race : Black/African American, City : Fort Washington, State : MD, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,June 6, 1999 at 12:00 am #42328
PhilMemberI detest the person who practices subtle racism. I’ve felt this sting many times. It often comes from someone who doesn’t realize they’ve just made a racist comment or performed a racist action. This insult may come from someone regarded as a friend, or the store clerk at the checkout line. The part that’s most difficult to deal with is the unexpected nature by which insult, comment or action present themselves. A bigot, on the other hand, makes no pretense about calling me a spade and treating me less than human. I don’t have to guess what’s on their mind. I know where I stand with this person right away, and in that respect, while this person may be ignorant, he or she is true to themselves and to me as well.
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Name : Phil, Gender : M, Race : Black/African American, Age : 35, City : Des Moines, State : IA, Country : United States, Occupation : Computer Programmer,December 28, 2002 at 12:00 am #15227
A. LESTER KEYParticipantINSTITUTIONAL RACISM IS THE WORST. I WOULD RATHER DEALA WITH THE FOX, WHO I CAN SEE AND HEAR FOR WHAT SHE/HE IS, THAN THE FOX IN SHEEP CLOTHING WHO HIDES BEHIND HIS DESK, UNIFORM ETC. WHO THEN PRACTISES THERE RACISM BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
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Name : A. LESTER KEY, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Pentecostal, Age : 35, City : KENTWOOD, State : MI, Country : United States, Occupation : BUSINESS OWNER, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,February 1, 2003 at 12:00 am #16317
Mary-MParticipantI cannot speak for all people, but I feel that anybody who makes a distinction in this case practice hypocrisy. As far as I can see, all of the above situations you describe are blatant racism and we should all take a stand to help prevent this sort of treatment to any person.
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Name : Mary-M, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 42, City : Porterville, State : CA, Country : United States,September 21, 2004 at 12:00 am #34954
JoParticipantAs horrible as blatant racism is, at least you know who the ‘bad guys’ are, and can stay away from them or try to change their thinking. And it seems like they do more talking than acting on their beliefs (nowadays), anyway. Institutionalized racism is worse, because it can affect every person, in little ways, that add up to big problems. Less education — Fewer good jobs — Lower income –fewer opportunites — more crime, etc. That is the racism that really needs to be changed.
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Name : Jo, Gender : F, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 40, City : Northbrook, State : IL, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, - AuthorPosts
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