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First, I have to say that if you remove the race from your post, the problem is still present. As others have said, it sounds as if your daughter has run into jerks….their race is irrelevent. Your daughter may not be stating everything that has occurred. But if all is as you said, then she can go to her First Sergeant, Flight Commander, Military EO Office, IG, and more. If you wish to email me and tell me what base, I’ll email you the names and phone numbers of some of my counterparts at that base. I will say that they will see what is actually going on. I can’t guarantee the results, as you may not have all the facts and there may be problems on both sides. Tell your daughter that AWOL is probably the worst thing she could do!
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Name : Frank, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Wiccan, Age : 34, City : Westminster, State : CO, Country : United States, Occupation : USAF, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,My husband just left the Air Force, and I have had a less than desirable roommate. We think the advice you’ve gotten so far is wrong–a person shouldn’t have to live like that, and there is every possibility these women could seriously hurt your daughter. Who cares if these women think your daughter isn’t tough? My husband says, she should try to change rooms, see Social Actions, and write your congressman (he says a parent complaining about a child’s treatment in the military will get someone’s attention, but he advises against mentioning that these women are black, just tell of their behavior). My advice is, if all this doesn’t work, try to find some better roommates to live off base with, whether they be from the Air Force or just local college students.
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Name : Amy31579, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Baptist, Age : 29, City : Charleston, State : WV, Country : United States, Occupation : Lab tech, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Joseph, The roomates are showing a complete lack of disipline. They will have many problems when they get to their normal duty station (I assume a training setting by the context of the post), it will not be tolerated. As everywhere else, the CO may be avoiding a ‘racial incident’ by ignoring the problems. This is the biggest problem with the current black privilege paradigm so prevelant in today’s society (lowered standards for behavior due to fear of being labled a racist). It is ultamitly the CO’s job to fix this, it would not be tolerated if the roles were reversed (it would be portrayed as racist). I would suggest you make a personal call to her first seargent. The first seargent can only be fired by congress, he or she should fix it, if they don’t they need retire or find a new career.
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Name : Jason31268, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 34, City : detroit, State : MI, Country : United States,I’m in the Air Force, too. Tell her there’s a lot of things she can do. Unfortunately her chain of command is not helping her. There’s the IG hotline. The Inspector General has a hotline for every base. They’ll be glad to help. This would be my first choice because of the situation with her ‘chain.’ There’s also the MEO, Military Equal Opportunity. They don’t have to answer to anyone under her base wing, so they don’t mind stepping on toes. Make sure she knows that going AWOL will mess with her entire career. It will follow her wherever she goes. These girls aren’t worth that.
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Name : Susan, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Lesbian, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Wiccan, Age : 22, City : Parma, State : OH, Country : United States, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Middle class,Has she tried talking to the Adjutant General’s office? It’s their job to listen when ‘the ‘higher ups’ ignore the situation.
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Name : Glenn-Garman, City : E. Rochester, State : NY, Country : United States,Sadly, it seems to me that your daughter is suffering from a victim’s mentality and an over-reliance on Dad. Family support is a wonderful thing, but this your daughter’s problem, and she must deal with. If she has not had the opportunity to develope these skills and inner resources, now is the time to start. Your reference to the ‘higher ups’ who have not helped her resonates of the nameless, faceless ‘they’ whom we so often blame for our problems in life. Who exactly has she contacted for help? I spent 22 years in the United States Air Force and racial discrimination and intimination are not sanctioned. I also live in the real world and know that it’s not a perfect world. Things happen daily that don’t comport with official policy. However, you daughter needs to take responsibility for her unhappiness, work her way up her chain of command, and enlist the help of other military or civilian agencies. If her complaints are legitimate, I feel certain that someone will listen and help her – even if it’s just be get her shut up and leave them alone. She needs to speak up for herself: first to the people who are intimidating her, and then to people whose job it is to help her. I don’t believe she needs to learn to deal with jerks or learn to be aggressive. War stories from old GIs about ‘the old days’ aren’t going to help either. She does need to toughen up a little and learn to handle her own problems. She’s an adult, albeit a young one. I suspect that if she weren’t being ‘intimidated by blacks,’ she would be someone else’s victim – probably an evil,unreasonal supervisor.
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Name : Pat-Hedelius, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 43, City : San Antonio, State : TX, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Having recently retired from the U.S. Air Force after 20 years, I find it difficult to believe the higher ups ignore her. If her 1st Sergeant ignores her, he/she is not doing their job. And it’s quite right that it’s possible the commander may be totally unaware of her situation. I can almost guarantee that an e-mail to the commander would take care of the problem. Respectfully, if your daughter told you her 1st Sergeant and commander won’t help her, she may be not telling you the whole story. She’s probably afraid of these other female airmen, especially if there have been threats of violence. If she’s talked to her immediate supervisor and nothing has done, her story about higher ups not listening is more credible. She needs to go to the 1st Sergeant or commander post-haste.
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Name : Anonymous, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Age : 42, City : Louisville, State : KY, Country : United States,Her superiors are evidently afraid of those black bitches too. Maybe the media can help your daughter.DC.
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Name : Dan-Cubrich27318, City : Omaha, State : NE, Country : United States,What your daughter is dealing with has nothing to do with race. It just happens to be that her roomates are black. Your daughter allows this to occure because she didn’t stand up for herself the first time. And your daughter obviously believes this has something to do with her race, which is hardly the case. I imagine, she looked at her roommates skin color before she even knew her name. And her roommate picked up on the fact that she could bully her around. Trust me, A white or Asian or Hispanic person or any other race could be doing that to ur daughter, they just happen to be black.
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Name : Dawna25942, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Baptist, Age : 18, City : Kansas City, State : MO, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,Your are automatically assuming your daughter is telling you the truth. You need to step out of it. She needs to learn how to solve her own problems. I have been in the miltary for 11 yrs. I have seen girls like her before ‘she needs to grow up’ and you need to let her. No superiors would things get that far out of control. By your tone, I would say that you have taught your daughter to be afraid of people of other races esp. Blacks. SHE & YOU, FACE THE TRUTH, YOU ARE A RACIST.
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Name : TH, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Age : 29, City : Atlanta, State : GA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,This is just a standard bully situation. My advice is, kill them with kindness. If she can’t beat em join em. Even though this is easier said than done, it’s best if she just doesn’t let them get to her. So what she should do is deal with their crap, act like she loves their music, do all the cleaning and what not and show no weakness or fear. In the end, she will be strong, and she will understand that in any situation she can overcome. And the two roomates that have no respect or decency towards others, they will get what’s coming to them someday. In no way should she put a label on these girls as far as race or whatever. If anything she should know them as a**holes and that there are a far more number of them world wide than just in her situation. And I can understand the higher ups not doing anything about it, because the military seems to think that we all have to be a team, somehow. But for some there is no I in team and they refuse to do it. They will learn sooner or later.
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Name : R. Martin, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, Age : 26, City : Jacksonville, State : IL, Country : United States, Occupation : press operator, Education level : Technical School, Social class : Lower middle class,YOU sound like a sexist pig who supports racial harrassment….. Let’s hope that some female will have the courage to sue you in a court of law for racial harrassment!
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Name : genna21631, City : petti, State : NA, Country : United States,YOUR DAUGHTER SHOULD TURN IN A COMPLAINT THRU CHAIN OF COMMAND. IF NOTHING IS DONE, TURN IN A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE BASE INSPECTOR GENERALS OFFICE. THIS WILL NOT BE EASY ON HER BUT PROCEEDURE MUST BE FALLOWED. THE UNIT SHE IS IN SOUNDS LIKE A REAL SNAFU OUTFIT THAT SHOIULD BE SHAPED UP FROM THE GROUND UP. YOUR DAUGHTER IS GONNA HAVE TO GET IN THESE BIMBOS FACES OR THEIR GONNA WALK ALL OVER HER,THEIR WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN RULED BY SLOTHFUL INTIMIDATION, AIR FORCE IS BUILT ON RULES AND REGS, A LETTER TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN OR LADY MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
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Name : SICK-OF-RAP, City : ANYWHERE, State : CA, Country : United States,TELL YOUR DAUGHTER TO SAY SOMETHING BACK! ONCE SHE SAYS SOMETHING BACK THE WOMEN WILL BE SO OUT DONE THERE WILL BE NO MORE INTIMADATION. THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY CAN! I AM A BLACK WOMAN AND I DO NOT INTIMADATE ANYONE, BUT AS MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO TELL ME GROWING UP IF YOU SET THE PERSON OR PERSONS WHO ARE STARTING THE MESS STRAIGHT THEY AND THE REST WILL FALL OFF! SO TELL YOUR DAUGHTER TO STAND UP FOR HERESELF! IF THE LIGHTS ARE CUT OFF CUT THEM BACK ON, IF THE OTHER WILL NOT MOP SHE DOES NOT MOP! LOOK EVERYONE I KNOW AND SEE I ASSUME THEY BLEED RED BLOOD AND BREATHE AIR , UNTIL PROVED DIFFRENT NO ONE IS GREATER THAN ANOTHER!
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Name : LUVVY, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Christian, Age : 30, City : DETROIT, State : MI, Country : United States, Occupation : BUSINESS OWNER, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper class,
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