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Where are the ‘black’ Spanish-speaking people? Why is it that I only see ‘white’ Hispanics?
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Name : Kofi Manani, Gender : M, Race : Black/African American, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,Black, Hispanic and white are three different races. How could there be black Hispanics or white Hispanics, unless you’re talking about somebody of mixed background?
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Name : Natalie20087, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 20, City : New York, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : actress, Education level : High School Diploma, Social class : Middle class,Natalie. Hispanic is not a race, it’s an ethnicity. Maybe your age and interest hasn’t allowed you to know more on the subject. By your standards I am not Hispanic because I’m white, neither is my wife (who is blonde blue-eyed), nor my parents. All latin-americans are hispanic, no matter what color. So, there are white-hispanics, brown-hispanics, black-hispanics and all mixes in between.
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Name : Nelson-A20188, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Age : 32, City : Caracas, State : NA, Country : Venezuela, Occupation : Lawyer/Business, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,I don’t know if you mean on the street or on TV. On U.S. Spanish TV you see predominantly white Hispanics. On U.S. English TV you see the stereotypical ‘brown’ Hispanic. Most Hispanic countries have black communities, but in none are they the majority, not even in the Dominican Republic. The majority in many is the ‘mixed’ race (brown), which is the result of mixing black, Indian and white. The rest are predominantly white (Argentina, Uruguay) or Indian (México, Bolivia, Peru), where black presence is not noticable. Besides this, the black community in most of these countries doesn’t emmigrate to the United States unless they are pro players (such as Sammy Sosa). Anyhow, there are plenty of black Hispanics in the United States, mostly in New York. Obviously you can’t recognize them unless they speak Spanish around you, which most only do at home.
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Name : Nelson-A20184, Gender : M, Race : White/Hispanic, Age : 32, City : Caracas, State : NA, Country : Venezuela, Occupation : lawyer/business, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,‘Hispanic’ is a blanket term and for the most part, isn’t an accurate descriptor of the racial origins of the majority of the people in Latin America. Basically, in the more tropical regions (Carribean, Brazil, etc.) you’ll find heavy African strains, and many times they have intermarried with the Spanish strains. In Mexico, 55% of the population is Mestizo (Indian and Spanish mix), 30% is pure Indian (and a third of them retain their tribal identity in full) and the rest are pretty much pure Spanish. Central America, Peru and Colombia are also heavily Mestizo and Indian. Argentina and Chile are more Spanish, probably (my personal theory) because the local Indians were more scattered than in heavily populated MesoAmerica, and the land was more for ranching than growing (the latter requiring more slaves to work the fields), so therefore there was little opportunity for intermarriage. As far as the United States is concerned, those from Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, etc., are going to tend to be more black, though they can also be white or Indian or any mix of the three, while those from Mexico and Central America are going to be more Indian. Those from Cuba and South America are usually going to be white, and sometimes black or mestizo/Indian.
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Name : Dan27185, Gender : M, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Pentecostal, Age : 22, City : L.A., State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : Student, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,Hispanic isn’t a race. It refers to being Spanish-speaking. White, blond Spaniards and very dark black Cubanos are both Hispanic. Neither is Latino a race – la gente está de muchos colores. Africans were abducted by the millions and brought to central and south America (and the Caribbean), just as they were in the United States. The only difference is that the Latin countries were predominantly Catholic and didn’t have the same mythological anti-black racism that existed (exists) in the Protestant United States (e.g., all of that “one drop of African blood” madness). Therefore, over the centuries they have mixed to a further degree. Further, black (meaning African American) is innately multiracial. White Americans seem reticent to admit that. We are all mixed with African, Native American and European blood to varying degrees. People who refer to black people as if we were monoracial know, or are pretending to know, nothing of our history.
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Name : Ira, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Atheist, Age : 35, City : Oak Park, State : MI, Country : United States, Occupation : software engineer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Hispanics are tri-racial (not an individual race). Puerto Ricans are on average around 60% Taino Indian, 30% African, and the rest a mix of Spanish and Anglo. Cubans are generally mulatto (black/white) because most of the tribes were wiped out. Brazilians are very mixed as well, much like Puerto Ricans. Mexicans tend to be mostly Indian. Some are mixed with Spanish, some with African. Its best if you look at them the same you would with anyone else. If a black married a Spaniard, for instance, and their child married an Indian, what would their kids be? Well, thats what most Hispanics are too.
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Name : LJ, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Baptist, City : Monroe, State : LA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,Hispanics are tri-racial (not a separate race). Puerto Ricans are on average around 60% Taino Indian, 30% African, and the rest a mix of Spanish and Anglo. Cubans are generally mulatto (black/white) because most of the tribes were wiped out. Brazilians are very mixed as well, much like Puerto Ricans. Mexicans tend to be mostly Indian. Some are mixed with Spanish, some with African. Its best if you look at them the same you would with anyone else. If a black married a Spaniard, for instance, and their child married an Indian, what would their kids be? Well, thats what most Hispanics are too.
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Name : LJ, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Baptist, City : Monroe, State : LA, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,I am a white college student from the United States, but I feel that I have some reason to answer, as I am a Spanish major, and we are currently debating this in a culture class. The debate is ongoing about what a ‘Hispanic’ is – the origin of the term is someone from Hispanola, otherwise known as Spain. What the term means now is another debate. Similarly, the term ‘Latino’ comes from ‘Latin,’ being that Spanish is the offshoot of colloquial Latin from the Roman presence in Spain (circa 400 AD). The question is, is ‘Hispanic’ or ‘Latino’ really a race? I would say not. The same with ‘hispanohablante’ or ‘spanish speaker’ – I am a spanish speaker, but my family came over here on the Mayflower from England.
Even lumping the term ‘Hispanic,’ assuming this means someone from Central or South America, the Carribean, is somewhat like saying all whites are the same, whether from the United States, Canada, Germany, England, France, Spain (yes, the Spanish are considered ‘white’) – I certainly wouldn’t lump those groups together, the same way I think it is limiting to assume that Mexicans, Argentinians and Nicaraguans are the same. They share some culture, some language and history, but I would not say they are the same. So yes, there are black Hispanics, and as they have a similar history to ‘U.S. blacks’ in the slave history, they too have a different cultural heritage than the ‘Indian’ Hispanics and Spanish descendants.
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Name : Gringa, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Unitarian, Age : 25, City : St. Louis, State : MO, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,You probably pass black Spanish-speaking people everyday and don’t know it. I remember i was on the train one day and there were these two black girls sitting across from me, and i was momentarily surprised when one of them blurted out something in Spanish. Of course i don’t know why i was surprised, since many of my friends were black Hispanics. Just goes to show you that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover!
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Name : K-Joseph, Gender : F, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Catholic, Age : 19, City : Bronx, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : College Student,I am living proof that there are black hispanics in the world. Even though you may not recognize us, we usually recognize each other (based on features, and hair etc). The word ‘Hispanic’ categorizes a lot of people. Hispanic can mean people of all colors(black, white, yellow, brown, and red). The word means that you have latin culture in your family lineage, that’s why many of us prefer the term latino. The actual word ‘hispanic’ really doesn’t mean anything more than calling someone ‘asian’. It’s known as a pan-ethnic group. It basically says that people don’t feel like taking the time to ackowledge the difference between someone from the Dominican Republic, and someone from Peru. I agree that black hispanics are underrepresented in the media. I get tired of people telling me that as a Puerto Rican, I’m supposed to look like Jennifer Lopez. There is no stereotypical ‘hispanic’. Sadly though,the white-dominated media makes it seem that way.
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Name : Black-Hispanic, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Religion : Agnostic, Age : 21, City : Brooklyn, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : student, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,The words ‘Puerto Rican’ and ‘Hispanic’ refer to national origin. Just as there are Americans of every race, there are Puerto Ricans and Hispanics of every race including many who are white and have ancestry from Spain and other European countries. Cameron Diaz, Sammy Sosa, Emelio Estevez and Jimmy Smits are all Hispanic but are obviously not members of the same race. There are also black Hispanics, Asian Hispanics, Jewish Hispanics, and every variation of people as you find in the United States. Just as Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson are not members of the same race merely because they are Americans with Anglo last names, not every ‘Puerto Rican’ or Hispanic is a member of the same race either. The myth of the Puerto Rican or ‘Hispanic race’ is promoted by ignorant or self-serving people. It has permeated U.S. society since the 1970’s. However, it is just a myth. If members of the United States government and media called Irish people a separate race for 30 years, most people would believe that too. Incidentally, the U. S. Census Bureaus does not and never has collected information on the ‘Hispanic race.’ When the Census Bureau does lists Hispanic information (which it began collecting in the 1970 Census), that information is clearly labeled as non-racial. For example, a Census category might state ‘white-non Hispanic,’ meaning that white Hispanics have been separated from that category as opposed to a Census category stating ‘white’ which would include white Hispanics.
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Name : Josh29146, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : white of Hispanic origin, Religion : Catholic, Age : 33, City : Soto, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : Lawyer, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,
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