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August 30, 2006 at 12:00 am #26381
DuaneMemberI am not a parent but have heard many discussions on the subject of potty-training. Enough to know that white parents used to potty-train their kids at an earlier age but for reasons unknown to me now train them later. Most older parents I hear don’t understand why today’s younger parents wait so long, either. I believe it may come from Doctor Spock who said forcing young kids to do things they don’t want to do will traumatize them. Of course thanks to this expert advice I have heard of a couple cases where a mother is still breastfeeding a kid who is old enough to ask her to take her tit out so he can breastfeed, and she does it. – No Lie.
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Name : Duane, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Pentecostal, Age : 33, City : Lancaster, State : CA, Country : United States, Occupation : Substitute Teacher, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class,August 30, 2006 at 12:00 am #34863
Ed25559MemberI have been told that this is primarily a function of economics. Diapers are expensive and the sooner the child is out of diapers, the sooner that expense disappears.
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Name : Ed25559, Gender : M, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), City : Aurora, State : IL, Country : United States, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,August 30, 2006 at 12:00 am #36993
JackMemberIt doesn’t matter what a person does to train their children. Until a certain synapse takes place in the brain it won’t happen. I trained my daughter in 10 minutes. She was 25 months old. She had no accidents and didn’t go through months and months of ‘potty time’. People were asking me for months when I was going to start. Ha, I waited until she had a grasp of the process and bing da da ding…10 minutes. Don’t waste your time or your child’s.
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Name : Jack, Gender : M, Sexual Orientation : Bisexual, Race : North African/Castillian Spanish, Religion : Jewish, Age : 53, City : Phoenix, State : AZ, Country : United States, Occupation : Medical, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,August 30, 2006 at 12:00 am #19986
NikkiMemberInterestingly enough, I have noticed the opposite. I also think that it can be a matter of socioeconomics rather than race. Many poorer, less-educated people don’t seem to want to bother (and I’ve seen this in my own family) while people who are higher up on the economic ladder (perhaps mom can afford to stay home) are more inclined to take the time. I have a cousin who is much less financially stable than I am and her kids were potty trained much later than mine. She works, too, and I do not, so maybe she just doesn’t have as much time to dedicate.
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Name : Nikki, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Wiccan, Age : 31, City : Pittsburgh, State : PA, Country : United States, Occupation : SAHM, Education level : Over 4 Years of College,December 10, 2006 at 12:00 am #28296
KateMemberI don’t think this is a black or white thing. It’s very common in Europe and the former Soviet Union to potty train early (12 months or so). This could be because diapers are expensive and laundry facilities for cloth diapers are less widely available (definitely an issue in the former Soviet Union), or it could be a matter of custom. According to the ‘What to Expect’ books, though, this early potty training is really just a matter of parents training themselves to recognize when the kid needs to go and parking him/her on a toilet in time to avoid accidents. For what it’s worth, I personally favored late potty training (3.25 years for my sons) because they were better equipped physically to ‘hold it’ if there wasn’t a toilet nearby and they were already able to dress and undress themselves, wash their own hands, etc.
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Name : Kate, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Catholic, Age : 34, City : Columbia, State : MD, Country : United States, Occupation : Diplomat, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,December 10, 2006 at 12:00 am #26324
Rhonda-P-Outlaw19814MemberI don’t know if your answer was meant to be cute or if you were serious; either way, it was stupid. As the mother of one son (and I have ONE job and am by no means encased in poverty) I can tell you why my son was thoroughly potty trained by the age of two. Simply put, it is NASTY and UNHEALTHY to allow a toddler to walk around in diapers soaked with urine, and loaded with feces. Any mother who allows her toddler to continue defecating and urinating in diapers/pull ups a second longer than necessary, is trifling.
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Name : Rhonda-P-Outlaw19814, Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Race : Black/African American, Religion : Lutheran, Age : 44, City : Laurelton, State : NY, Country : United States, Occupation : Account Representative, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Middle class,December 10, 2006 at 12:00 am #34067
FensterMemberBlack children develop much faster than white children: muscle development, coordination, etc. Black babies sit up, crawl and walk earlier than white babies. It is only natural that they should be able to be potty-trained at an earlier age than white babies.
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Name : Fenster, City : Toronto, State : NA, Country : Canada,December 10, 2006 at 12:00 am #36410
Robin R.Memberi think white women tend to rely more on book knowledge than knowledge handed down generations. The American Pediatric Society had stated that there is a stage in development when the child’s brain and body have sufficient awareness and control to master this task. trying before this time is a waste of effort not to mention being hard on the child. you are asking them to do something they cannot do consistently and punishing them for something they cannot help. all three of my children were potty trained in less than a week. it kept me from having to sit on the side of the tub for long spells. the average age according to the apc is 2 years 6 months for girls, and 2 years 9 months for boys
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Name : Robin R., Gender : F, Sexual Orientation : Straight, Disability : none i know of, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : New Thought Movement, Age : 51, City : birmingham, State : AL, Country : United States, Occupation : laboratory tech, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Upper middle class,December 10, 2006 at 12:00 am #24738
Miss-LetileMemberI think white parents potty train late because they put the kids in child care while they are working. Black parents, or at least one of them, are home to train the child.
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Name : Miss-Letile, Gender : F, City : Grand Rapids, State : MI, Country : United States,January 31, 2008 at 12:00 am #22149
AmyMMemberPotty training too early is not good for anyone concerned. If the kid’s nervous system is ready it will be fast and easy; if not, it’s likely to be traumatic in ways that may take years to reveal themselves. It is not so much a matter of synapses as someone mentioned, but of myelination. Without proper myelination the child does not have the control to truly control himself. (If you want to see someone without myelin, look at a person with MS) Regarding dependency, many white people (including myself) believe that children need a stage in which they feel very secure in having their needs met before they start to express their independence and challenge themselves at their own pace. This is backed up by both psychological studies and cross-cultural research. Be Kind, for everyone
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